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wbalsam1

wbalsam1

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220/221 said:
It was clearly done by the person who installed the remodel can. I wouldn't refer to him as an electrician though.

I admit, I have banged the top of a can or two to squeeze it in to an unexpected obstacle, but that is a little much. I have even popped the rivets off the top,trimmed the can down with tin snips and screwed the top back on.:cool:


BTW, he should have seen the pipe when he pulled out the original JB and just relocated it a bit.
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In all the many years that I did electrical work I was very fortunate to never install a can in a spot in the ceiling that had an obstacle right where the homeowner wanted the light. Very lucky, I guess. If I would've run into this predicament, I would of convinced the HO to relocate one or the other, I never would have - on the sly - field-modified a listed fixture to adapt to those existing conditions. No way. :)
 
peter d

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If only that "electrician" owned a flashlight, he could have clearly seen that pipe when he removed the old j-box. But alas, I'm expecting far too much for that fella with excellent metal working skills.
 
ptonsparky

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wbalsam1 said:
In all the many years that I did electrical work I was very fortunate to never install a can in a spot in the ceiling that had an obstacle right where the homeowner wanted the light. Very lucky, I guess. If I would've run into this predicament, I would of convinced the HO to relocate one or the other, I never would have - on the sly - field-modified a listed fixture to adapt to those existing conditions. No way. :)
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I may have ended up with a can that might have suffered a "small dent" in the installation processs.:grin:
 
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wireguru

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wbalsam1 said:
Was this done by the plumber or the electrician, or do you know? :-?:smile:
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i think the can was modified by a plumber(1), and the copper pipe with the saddle in it was installed by an electrician(2)


1 = homeowner
2 = unlicensed handyman
 
Minuteman

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I got it... If the foam insulation heats up from the fixture, the resulting fire will become hot enough to melt the solder on the copper pipe, water will squirt out, thus putting out the fire. Presto! The self extinguishing fire hazard! The dude is a freaking genius. :grin:
 
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alfiesauce

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wbalsam1 said:
In all the many years that I did electrical work I was very fortunate to never install a can in a spot in the ceiling that had an obstacle right where the homeowner wanted the light. Very lucky, I guess. If I would've run into this predicament, I would of convinced the HO to relocate one or the other, I never would have - on the sly - field-modified a listed fixture to adapt to those existing conditions. No way. :)
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Your a very nice person to let the homeowner decide where remodel cans go.
I allow them to decide the general layout they are hoping for and let all the joists and crap like this decide where they really go. :cool:
 
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JohnME

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Is that really your work? I too am a hack, is there really an issue doing this? I would rather deal with this then the homeowner who is now yelling about a ceiling patch.
 
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MJW

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I' ve never hit anything while intalling a can light but I did find a 1/2 inch water line while installing a ceiling speaker. Luckily it was at my house so I removed my belt and rounded up my plumbing tools. It wasn't much fun sweating pipe through a 6 X 10 hole but I got it done. I wish I would have known about sharkbite fittings back then. Those things ROCK!
 
LarryFine

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peter d said:
I blame myself, because I'm the hack that put it in. I've always admitted to being a hack, but now pictures of my hack work are on the 'net. :mad:
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At the next HA (Hacks Anonymous) meeting:

Peter: "Hello. My name is Peter. I'm a hack"

Group: "Hello, Peter!"
 
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alfiesauce

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JohnME said:
Is that really your work? I too am a hack, is there really an issue doing this? I would rather deal with this then the homeowner who is now yelling about a ceiling patch.
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I see no reason why this installation is wrong other then the potential risk of fire it creates.
 
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