JohnE
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- Milford, MA
I don't think the house needs to be bulldozed. But I do think it would be cheaper to do so and rebuild than to repair it.
Fire damage and re-wiring a house
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jbelectric777
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fire & water damage
fire & water damage
i agree with celtic , rewire is the best option. i had a fire and water damage account about 7 years ago and all they would do is replace the circuit breakers and the main circuit breaker.( as well as the devices and covers of course ) it may be true the romex cables in the wall were not exposed to the severe heat , and they may be fine but the only way to know for sure is to open the wall/s and visually inspect the cable and if you do that , you may as well re wire , as far as cost thats up to where you live , i used to live in somers point new jersey and i calculated about a 30 % increase from say wilkes-barre pennsylvania in the area of actual cost of work to be billed to the home owner. now i am more west in pennsylvania and i find the market here with very little competition so i can get whatever i want for the job if i wanted to run my small business that way. anyway as far as cost for re wire , i just rewired an old farmhouse ( about 1500 square feet ) and billed it at: $ 3100.00 but that also included a 100A service complete with updating grounding and bonding. the thing with the restoration companies is money and thats why i dropped the account so be careful. now , not to change the subject, if anyone out there has a Ohio contractors business & law reference manual to sell , please e mail me, i am licensed in NJ and PA for contractor and inspector/plans examiner but i never had to take a business/law exam. does anyone know the material outline of the exam ? i ( as well as celtic knows ) , we do 34 hours continued education in NJ , ten of which are for business and NJ state law.so do you guys think i really need the manual ? or should i just take the exam ? i have been in business for 10 + years and never had a problem. if anyone can help me out i would appreciate it very much. Jim / Warren, Penna
fire & water damage
i agree with celtic , rewire is the best option. i had a fire and water damage account about 7 years ago and all they would do is replace the circuit breakers and the main circuit breaker.( as well as the devices and covers of course ) it may be true the romex cables in the wall were not exposed to the severe heat , and they may be fine but the only way to know for sure is to open the wall/s and visually inspect the cable and if you do that , you may as well re wire , as far as cost thats up to where you live , i used to live in somers point new jersey and i calculated about a 30 % increase from say wilkes-barre pennsylvania in the area of actual cost of work to be billed to the home owner. now i am more west in pennsylvania and i find the market here with very little competition so i can get whatever i want for the job if i wanted to run my small business that way. anyway as far as cost for re wire , i just rewired an old farmhouse ( about 1500 square feet ) and billed it at: $ 3100.00 but that also included a 100A service complete with updating grounding and bonding. the thing with the restoration companies is money and thats why i dropped the account so be careful. now , not to change the subject, if anyone out there has a Ohio contractors business & law reference manual to sell , please e mail me, i am licensed in NJ and PA for contractor and inspector/plans examiner but i never had to take a business/law exam. does anyone know the material outline of the exam ? i ( as well as celtic knows ) , we do 34 hours continued education in NJ , ten of which are for business and NJ state law.so do you guys think i really need the manual ? or should i just take the exam ? i have been in business for 10 + years and never had a problem. if anyone can help me out i would appreciate it very much. Jim / Warren, Penna
jbelectric777
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Ohio business/law book
Ohio business/law book
If anyone has one to sell or knows where to get one my e mail is :
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Ohio business/law book
If anyone has one to sell or knows where to get one my e mail is :
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Pierre C Belarge
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- Westchester County, New York
Visually inspecting the wiring/cables may be of some help, but one cannot identify problems with the conductors themselves without a megger type test.
When there is a fire in a building here, we have them megger the affected (water and heat) areas.
I am not a structural engineer, we leave that part up the building officials. Same goes for sheetrock and paint... my expertise is in electrical...so I say
When there is a fire in a building here, we have them megger the affected (water and heat) areas.
I am not a structural engineer, we leave that part up the building officials. Same goes for sheetrock and paint... my expertise is in electrical...so I say
acrwc10...really....I'd have to look at the job before I gave a price, and believe me, the not to exceed would cover my butt.
I've been through the woods and across the creek a few times, and managed to do OK, so I've got confidence in my ability to estimate a job.
If I was green, I might think differently.
As Dirty Harry said...."A man's got to know his limitations".
steve
I've been through the woods and across the creek a few times, and managed to do OK, so I've got confidence in my ability to estimate a job.
If I was green, I might think differently.
As Dirty Harry said...."A man's got to know his limitations".
steve
allenwayne
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Had a major builders model home get struck by lightning last year.Not a really big fire, but some damage.What a nighmare by the time it was over.First the fire marshall called the EI dept.The meter was pulled,had an engineering firm come out to do a certified megger (The EI wanted the whole house done)
All we replaced was about 200 ft of NM and 8 recessed cans.Then we called for an inspection.Here comes the EI he now wants a second certified megger test to ensure that all the damaged wire was replaced.
Had to have a service crew tied up for 1 day to repair what was damaged,2 full days just unhooking and reinstalling devices,appliances, cans,fixtures.By the time it was over the builder had spent almost $20,000.00 for a small attic fire that hardly did damage.From the pics I`d say it would be better to gut and redo if the structure is sound.
All we replaced was about 200 ft of NM and 8 recessed cans.Then we called for an inspection.Here comes the EI he now wants a second certified megger test to ensure that all the damaged wire was replaced.
Had to have a service crew tied up for 1 day to repair what was damaged,2 full days just unhooking and reinstalling devices,appliances, cans,fixtures.By the time it was over the builder had spent almost $20,000.00 for a small attic fire that hardly did damage.From the pics I`d say it would be better to gut and redo if the structure is sound.
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- Service Manager
Is that your whole story?SeanKelly said:
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