Fire Marshall or Electric inspector??

[Allspark]

Who has final say Fire marshall wants one thing but inspector said he would fail me if I did it??

 

[Mule]

Who has final say Fire marshall wants one thing but inspector said he would fail me if I did it??

Sounds like a need for a conference call IMO........get their heads together...make them collectively address you....

 

[infinity]

In my experience fire marshalls don't know that much about electrical installations. Sounds like those two guys need to talk.

 

[Allspark]

But it deals with heat and smoke detectors in the elevators

 

[infinity]

But it deals with heat and smoke detectors in the elevators

IMO it depends on who's jurisdiction that falls under. The EI might be overstepping his boundary by going there.

 

[Allspark]

Yeah but i do you fight that one seems like a lose lose battle someone is going to get mad . I mean i need both a final and co so I am in hard place here

 

[JohnJ0906]

IMO it depends on who's jurisdiction that falls under. The EI might be overstepping his boundary by going there.

But it deals with heat and smoke detectors in the elevators

Normally, around here, the EI would inspect how it is installed,(wiring method, support, boxes, etc), and either the Fire Marshal, or elevator inspector would determine if placement and/or design is correct.

 

[Allspark]

Well fire marshall wants them the the shaft but inspector said no way

 

[Cow]

Yeah but i do you fight that one seems like a lose lose battle someone is going to get mad . I mean i need both a final and co so I am in hard place here

Why are you in hard place? Like said above, get these two together to work it out. It's not your fault they're not on the same page.

 

[MarkyMarkNC]

Whoo-boy, I've run into that one before. Fire inspector wanted one thing, and elevator inspector wanted the opposite. I think I ended up calling the fire inspector on the phone while the elevator inspector was on site, and they hashed it out between themselves.

If it came down to it, I was going to let the fire guy inspect, and then rip out the smoke for the elevator inspector (or vice versa, I don't remember who wanted what)

 

[Allspark]

But you know how the egos start if one is over rulled or it has been that way on me in the past

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

NFPA requires them in the shaft...why does the Ei not want them there?

 

[Allspark]

And the elevator inspector has said he wants heat and smoke in the pit as well as shaft which fire marshall disagrees with

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

Yee haaaa

You almost have enough people to play a hand of poker. That should help you to get a straight answer...winner takes all.

 

[Allspark]

i think i will put like each one wants then fix it for the next one and so one till we pass all of them

 

[nakulak]

rather than fight them or allow yourself to be jacked around, its sometimes best to simply arrange a meeting and let them sort it out with each other (and also with the elevator inspector, who often has the overriding authority in the shaft). if they can't sort it out themselves, simply offer to help by offering to send all of their bosses the results of the meetings issues that can't be resolved.

 

[EBFD6]

i think i will put like each one wants then fix it for the next one and so one till we pass all of them

This is a terrible idea.

You are not listening to the advice that is being given here. I will repeat for you the solution to your problem get all parties involved together in the same room for a meeting and let them hash things out. This is not your problem, let the inspectors decide collectively what needs to be done and if that doesn't happen then it is time for the customer and possibly their attorney to take it to the next level.

(edit to add: sorry nakulak, I posted before reading your last reply, but obviously I agree!)

 

[brennan]

Tell us more of what is happening.

 

[electricmanscott]

Tell us more of what is happening.

That's what I was thinking. If you are going to ask a question it would be better to put all the important information in the question. You are more likely to get a more thorough and correct answer.

 

[William1978]

Normally, around here, the EI would inspect how it is installed,(wiring method, support, boxes, etc), and either the Fire Marshal, or elevator inspector would determine if placement and/or design is correct.

Thats the way it is around here.