flagged on 2 things - GFI for laundry and Shower trim

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Leave your kids or grand-kids in the shower for 10 minuets and see all the places water can go :D
 
dcooper said:
2 - I have a recessed light installed in a tub/shower (no hand held). Open trim rated for damp location. Inspector claims this ceiling is a wet location as it is subject to shower spray. I disagree. The shower spray can not hit the ceiling. It is unlikley that the spray would bounce off a body and hit the ceiling also......... but that's not shower spray anyways!
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FWIW, I have an area of a couple of square feet above my shower which is denuded of the "popcorn" ceiling texture from when the shower head developed a leak and sprayed the ceiling. I'm just sayin'...
 
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Violation # 1: No GFCI rated receptacle required unless
within 6 ft. of a water source......The washing machine
potable water supply line would not qualify as a valid
"water source".

Violation # 2: IMO, ...yes, a "wet rated" fixture should
have been installed......The "What If" Factor is a valid one!
This same line of thought is used on GFCI rated
receptacles all the time, ...as long as no one touches an
ungrounded conductor / surface, ...no harm & no damage.
"What If" someone touches an ungrounded conductor /
surface ?

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steve66 said:
When you try to save $30 bucks and try to give the dog a bath yourself. :D
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You mean when you try to give yourself a doggie shampoo, don't you? :)

On a more serious note, Damp fixture might be justifiable over a bath-only tub (except with kids or dogs?). But with any kind of shower, I would go for Wet.
 
Please refer to the arcle you are quoting in violation 1



north star said:
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Violation # 1: No GFCI rated receptacle required unless
within 6 ft. of a water source......The washing machine
potable water supply line would not qualify as a valid
"water source".

Violation # 2: IMO, ...yes, a "wet rated" fixture should
have been installed......The "What If" Factor is a valid one!
This same line of thought is used on GFCI rated
receptacles all the time, ...as long as no one touches an
ungrounded conductor / surface, ...no harm & no damage.
"What If" someone touches an ungrounded conductor /
surface ?

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Lets go back to 410.10(D) and read what it says.

Luminaires located within the actual outside dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold shall be marked for damp locations, or marked for wet locations where subject to shower spray.
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If you get any higher than the dimension mentioned from the rim or shower threshold the risk of direct spray hitting the luminaire becomes significantly less. Maybe not impossible, but is less. Many homes are going back to high ceilings, and the luminaire very well may be high enough it is not at much risk of getting wet. If you have shower with the necessary pressure or nozzle design to shoot water that far, you must have a car wash for a shower.:)
 
2011 NEC
201.8(A)(7)
Sinks - located in areas other then kitchens where recpts are installed 6ft of the outer edge of the sink.

I am not in violation





north star said:
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Violation # 1:
From the `06 IRC, Section E3802.7, ...from the`08 NEC,
Artcle 210.8(A)(7).

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dcooper,

My mistake !.......I completely misread your
OP !.......Sorry for the incorrect listing of
Articles & code sections. :slaphead:

FWIW, ...there is no Article 201 in the NEC !

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