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Strathead

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I think that pay scale is common across Florida, according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the mean electrician pay in FL is $20.18 per hour. http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes472111.htm#st

No, the Higher Journeymen more foremen here may make $20. That chart you showed is the average rate. I would say the average rate North of Orlando is closer to $17
 

peter d

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No, the Higher Journeymen more foremen here may make $20. That chart you showed is the average rate. I would say the average rate North of Orlando is closer to $17

No doubt, I was only going by official statistics and from personal experience from time I've spent in Florida. If you're all the way down in Collier County (Naples) you could probably make low to mid 20's.

Seeing that you're in Ocala, what is the average rate at the company you work at?
 

donaldelectrician

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No doubt, I was only going by official statistics and from personal experience from time I've spent in Florida. If you're all the way down in Collier County (Naples) you could probably make low to mid 20's.

Seeing that you're in Ocala, what is the average rate at the company you work at?



If you make low to mid $20's as an electrician .


Look for something else .


The government boys will take 37% in taxes .


Better off selling Drugs , like they all do . Then Union and non union will be out of jail , trying to get by . i found that both end up in jail .





But this is not a reality of a Right to Work State in the Low paying South . Only the last 40 years .


I would get out of the trade , or move .





Don
 
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horses

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I signed up to take the Florida Electrical Unlimited exam and had a couple of questions!

1- Do I really need to purchase all of the books that are listed under Electrical Unlimited reference books at Palms bookstore that are around $1200.00? I have the 2011 NEC handbook, Florida Construction Manual, and the National Fire Alarm and Signaling Code 2013 Edition!

2- I used Mike's study course when I obtained my original Master license in Virginia, and I have my North Carolina Unlimited license through reciprocity with Virginia.
I need my CEU credits for Virginia and North Carolina so I enrolled in an exam prep course in North Carolina because it would meet my CEU requirements and at the same time I would get some help preparing for my Florida Exam. The said that their course would prepare me for the Florida technical part, but not the Business part?

Any help will be appreciated!
 
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Coppersmith

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Tampa, FL, USA
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Electrical Contractor
Florida is so strange to me. You have literally one of the most difficult and expensive electrical contractor licenses in the country. Yet in most areas you have no journeyman license or test and no apprenticeship/training program. The owner of the business who may never put on tools has the license but nobody else has any formal training? Explain that one to me. :huh:

Difficult? The FL unlimited EC is just that, unlimited. You are allowed to do ANY KIND of electrical work. Looking back, they did not test me on half the stuff I'm allowed to do. The entire test is open book so anyone who has familiarised themselves with the reference books and can use an index should be able to pass first time. (There a few calculations questions. Very few.) FL offers a bunch of limited license types. If one wants to do just residential, or alarms, or low voltage, then just take that test instead. They are much easier.

I like the fact the people consider it difficult. I spent about 6 months (two months was test prep) getting licensed and now I can enjoy the rest of my working life reaping the benefits of being a master electrician, one of which is the legal competition is limited to those willing to put in the effort to get licensed. I even get work referred to me from people who have limited electrical licenses because they can't legally do anything outside the scope of their license. (I'm sure many are violating this rule.)

Expensive? Between the reference books, test prep books, application fees, and test fees it will cost about $2000. Test prep courses are really not required. The material is fairly easy to understand except the NEC. For that you need Mike's test prep book. You can make back $2K in your first full week of billings. (BTW, FL requires a minimum $10K in the bank to get your license. I wouldn't try to start the business in any state with less than $30K.)

Jman Licences? I would love this. It would cut way down on competition from incompetent workers and raise wages for the men. We had Jman licences at one time. The Republicans in office got rid of that requirement. ("Unneeded regulation.") They reasoned that the qualifier (the person with the licence) is supposed to be supervising the men s/he employs. (Not that it really happens.)

Apprenticeship training programs? There are union training programs covering the entire state. There are non-union training programs in the major cities. I spent five years in a FL apprenticeship program. My program is certified by the FL Dept of Education. I think they all are.
 
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peter d

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Difficult? The FL unlimited EC is just that, unlimited. You are allowed to do ANY KIND of electrical work. Looking back, they did not test me on half the stuff I'm allowed to do. The entire test is open book so anyone who has familiarised themselves with the reference books and can use an index should be able to pass first time. (There a few calculations questions. Very few.) FL offers a bunch of limited license types. If one wants to do just residential, or alarms, or low voltage, then just take that test instead. They are much easier.

I like the fact the people consider it difficult. I spent about 6 months (two months was test prep) getting licensed and now I can enjoy the rest of my working life reaping the benefits of being a master electrician, one of which is the legal competition is limited to those willing to put in the effort to get licensed. I even get work referred to me from people who have limited electrical licenses because they can't legally do anything outside the scope of their license. (I'm sure many are violating this rule.)

Expensive? Between the reference books, test prep books, application fees, and test fees it will cost about $2000. Test prep courses are really not required. The material is fairly easy to understand except the NEC. For that you need Mike's test prep book. You can make back $2K in your first full week of billings. (BTW, FL requires a minimum $10K in the bank to get your license. I wouldn't try to start the business in any state with less than $30K.)

Jman Licences? I would love this. It would cut way down on competition from incompetent workers and raise wages for the men. We had Jman licences at one time. The Republicans in office got rid of that requirement. ("Unneeded regulation.") They reasoned that the qualifier (the person with the licence) is supposed to be supervising the men s/he employs. (Not that it really happens.)

Apprenticeship training programs? There are union training programs covering the entire state. There are non-union training programs in the major cities. I spent five years in a FL apprenticeship program. My program is certified by the FL Dept of Education. I think they all are.

I have an unlimited contractors license too, and am legally allowed to do any kind of electrical work. That is the case in most states unless they have this limited/unlimited type of system (some other states do as well.) My point is that there is no formal training requirement like we have here in New England and other places. Your training is voluntary or semi-voluntary if you choose to join the union. Otherwise it's a free for all.
 

Coppersmith

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Tampa, FL, USA
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Electrical Contractor
My point is that there is no formal training requirement like we have here in New England and other places. Your training is voluntary or semi-voluntary if you choose to join the union. Otherwise it's a free for all.

I agree that there is no "formal" (i.e. classroom) training requirement. There is however a 12,000 hour working experience requirement which means lots of OJT by a Jman instructing an apprentice. 40% has to certified by your employers to be 3-phase work.

I don't remember it being voluntary either. Jman showed me what to do and then showed me again when I screwed it up. (Or got pissed off and did it himself while I watched.)

I did learn lots of interesting facts in the classroom. About 10% of applicable to doing electrical work in the real world.
 
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