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Hi Paul, I don't do new construction in Alexandria, but a lot of service calls and remodels. Any idea when 2008 NEC will be kicking-in in VA? I'm starting to read rumblings about 2011 proposed changes and feel like I'm trapped in the past! BTW, tell Brian that I have capitulated and now use 20A duplex receptacles on microwave receptacles, rather than arguing about the FPN directing to the definition of "receptacle!" Cheers!:)
 
Split Bolt said:
and now use 20A duplex receptacles on microwave receptacles, rather than arguing about the FPN directing to the definition of "receptacle!" Cheers!:)
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:-? What is this about. A microwave does not need to have a single recep. If it is an individual circuit you can still use a duplex 15 amp recep. on the microwave cir. What FPN are you talking about.
 
radiopet said:
Based on such little information we will assume it is powered from the shore and is a floating building.
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Ther are alot of "camps" around the area. They are built on pilings and most have POCO power. Some have piers to the shore, some are only accessible by boat. I have seen some in the middle of a lake. All are under the NEC.
 
Hey Dennis, you'll need to find your 2005 NEC book if you guys are in 2008. (I don't know if it changed for 2008 because I still keep my 2005 with me for now and my brand new 2008 is at home) Go to 210.21 (B) (1). After the 2 exceptions, there is a FPN: "See the definition of receptacle in article 100." You are correct in saying that you can use a duplex 15 amp receptacle on a 20 amp microwave circuit because a duplex receptacle is not a single receptacle by code. However, in the City of Alexandria, you will fail your final inspection because of it! As I stated in my earlier reply, I have gotten tired of arguing because, after all is said and done, the AHJ calls the shots. I have found that it is easier to just install a 20 amp receptacle and get the job passed!
 
Split Bolt, do these inspectors have anything formal to back up their demands?

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A formal orange rejection sticker!:grin: Seriously though, it has been a couple of years since I decided to just go ahead and use 20A duplexes, but they would just cite 210.21 (B) (1) on the rejection slip. Honestly, now whenever I do a kitchen and supply the materials, I use 20A duplex and GFCI receptacles on all of the 20A circuits. I think it looks professional and makes me look good to the client!
 
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