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David,
Take a chill pill.
You are forgetting that NM must be supported according to 334.30 so if it is run on the surface it will be attached to the surface.
You have completely lost me with your reasoning about joists. If I am running NM "at angles with the joist" and it is smaller than "two #6 or 3 #8" then it MUST be installed through bored holes in the joists which refers us to 334.17 OR I may install it on running boards. If I install it through bored holes, running boards are not required. If I install it on running boards, then I don't install it through bored holes.
These are two different wiring methods.
If the work is exposed, it is run on the surface and must meet the requirements for exposed work. If it is installed through bored holes, it is installed through bored holes and needs to meet the requiremnts for that work. You can't take the requirements for one wiring method and apply them to another. I know many people would like to see NM protected wherever it is "visible" but the NEC does not require it.
 
haskindm said:
If the work is exposed, it is run on the surface and must meet the requirements for exposed work.
You told us that the only acceptable definition of "exposed" is the one found in Article 100 and that definition does not include a wiring method that is run on the surface and is visible without removing a panel. You can't have it both ways. If exposed does not include visible then you can't run the NM on the surface.
 
haskindm said:
David,
Take a chill pill.

Translation: "I'm losing this argument so I'm going to try misdirecting."
Best defense is an offense, right ?

haskindm said:
You have completely lost me with your reasoning about joists.

Try reading it again.
Alot of times I have to reread stuff a number of times before it "clicks".
 
After reading this whole post, I tend to go with the first reply (post #2) by Cavie:
"Remove the wires from the panel and he has no issue. Work in progress does not need to be covered. This will simply be a long progress. It can be inspected for damage on rough inspection before drywall."

This makes the most sense and is the easiest to accomplish. :smile:
 
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