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M. D.

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I was just at a new house,..And all the receptacles outside the kitchen and bath are in the mop board ,.. is this in compliance M.E.C. ??
 
Yes.

A lot of my design work is in high end single family homes. Architects request this all the time.
 
M. D. said:
I was just at a new house,..And all the receptacles outside the kitchen and bath are in the mop board ,.. is this in compliance M.E.C. ??
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If I may translate, the mop board is that the same as base board? If so it is compliant and apita to do.
 
Yeah side ways. If it is new work just install the nail up box as normal. Then when you trim it out use a fire ring and long screws.
 
try these nex time they cost more but it is worth it,.. I use them in kitchens and bath rooms

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Well I finally got off my butt and looked and what I found was this so I guess it depends on wheather or not this othe standard has been adopted ,.. in any event it is not the inspector of wires who would be responsible..

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it has remained the same the 2008 version would not let me cut and paste


APPENDIX A†
780 CMR: MASSACHUSETTS STATE BUILDING CODE
6th Edition with changes and corrections up to 3/1/98
†[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The provisions of the regulations cited in this appendix are noted to assist the users of this Code in properly considering various electrical design constraints of other building systems. They are generally unenforceable by an Inspector of Wires. See Rule 5 of this Code. [/FONT]​
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521 CMR:
39.3 HEIGHT The highest operable part of controls, dispensers, receptacles, and other operable equipment shall be placed within at least one of the reach ranges specified in 521 CMR 6.5, Forward Reach and 521 CMR 6.6, Side Reach. ​

39.3.1 Electrical and communications system receptacles on walls shall be mounted between 15 inches (15" = 381mm) and 48 inches (48" = 1219mm) above the floor, measured at the centerline of the lowest receptacle.
Exception: These requirements do not apply where the use of special equipment dictates otherwise or where electrical and communications systems receptacles are not normally intended for use by building occupants. ​
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Rule 5. References are made in this code to other standards. Those standards, where duly adopted by law or regulation, may be enforced by the appropriate official. They are not considered part of this Code and they are not enforceable under M.G.L. c. 143, ? 3L.
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buckofdurham said:
Yeah side ways. If it is new work just install the nail up box as normal. Then when you trim it out use a fire ring and long screws.
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Most of the time if you install the box vertically in the baseboard trim (mopboard if you are a yankee I guess) it will not work out properly or at least won't look very nice unless the baseboard is much taller than the average ones (in which case I still think it would look like crap vertically that is. Horizontally looks alot nicer IMO).
 
521 CMR are guidelines used for ADA compliant spaces. For instance in multifamily dwellings where a certain percentage (don't recall the number off the top of my head) of tenant spaces are required to be ADA compliant. This is where 521 would apply.
 
I personally like it in the baseboard. A lot cleaner look IMO. But the ADA presents a good argument that I never thought of plus older folk would have a harder time pluging in and out.
 
steelersman said:
Most of the time if you install the box vertically in the baseboard trim (mopboard if you are a yankee I guess) it will not work out properly or at least won't look very nice unless the baseboard is much taller than the average ones (in which case I still think it would look like crap vertically that is. Horizontally looks alot nicer IMO).
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The ones I have done they were using 10'' base board, going for the older style home look. The way I found it worked out was to use a 2x4x10'' pull the box out to where the nails were on the edge of the board and then nail the board down on the bottom plate. The amount of box sticking out was good because the base board is not a true 3/4". I personally dont like the baseboard look ether and I wouldn't want to bend that far plugging in stuff.
 
Rampage_Rick said:
It's people like you that end up wallpapering all the cover plates. Your choices should be white or almond, not paisley or plaid.
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I think your choices should be white or white. Less to stock. and non of that Decora either. :D
 
iwire said:
Does that apply to dwelling units?
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No I guess not ,.. unless it is a public dwelling ,...people in wheel chairs don't buy dwellings I guess:smile:


521 CMR 2.00: PURPOSE AND SCOPE

2.1 PURPOSE
521 CMR is designed to make public buildings and facilities accessible to, functional for, and safe for
use by persons with disabilities.
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ceb58 said:
The ones I have done they were using 10'' base board, going for the older style home look. The way I found it worked out was to use a 2x4x10'' pull the box out to where the nails were on the edge of the board and then nail the board down on the bottom plate. The amount of box sticking out was good because the base board is not a true 3/4". I personally dont like the baseboard look ether and I wouldn't want to bend that far plugging in stuff.
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Well all I'm really getting at is that if they are going to be in the baseboard (which I think is a good look) they look better to be horizontal rather than vertical IMO.
 
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