Ford Charge Station Pro

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Does anyone know how Ford is back feeding a house with their electric pickup &
separating from utility power? How does this work?
 
I have a feeling the author of the article doesn’t know what he is talking about, or misunderstands what Ford is saying. It appears to have grid tie capability, but unless some sort of transferswitch at the main is incorporated, it cannot power the house with utility off.
 
hillbilly1 said:
It appears to have grid tie capability, but unless some sort of transfer switch at the main is incorporated, it cannot power the house with utility off.
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Pretty sure they have advertised backup capability while the grid is off. So the Ford Charge Station Pro would need to incorporate regular EVSE functionality (for charging), V2H functionality (to pull DC power from the back), and a multimode inverter (both grid-tie and island). It would need a companion MID (Microgrid Interconnect Device, to disconnect from the grid).

Cheers, Wayne
 
wwhitney said:
Pretty sure they have advertised backup capability while the grid is off. So the Ford Charge Station Pro would need to incorporate regular EVSE functionality (for charging), V2H functionality (to pull DC power from the back), and a multimode inverter (both grid-tie and island). It would need a companion MID (Microgrid Interconnect Device, to disconnect from the grid).

Cheers, Wayne
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That’s what I thought. In other words a transferswitch.
 
hillbilly1 said:
That’s what I thought. In other words a transferswitch.
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Yeah, I often think of the MID that way, but some prefer to make the distinction. I guess on a transfer switch, you always have the alternate power source running through the transfer switch? With an MID, you just need to disconnect from the grid, the power source is interconnected elsewhere. So the transfer switch is double throw, while the MID is just single throw. (Just thinking out loud here.)

Cheers, Wayne
 
Just wait..
Someone will purchase this charger and try to export to the grid without a power purchase plan.
Then gripe when the utility says there are requirements to be able to export.
Utilities still need to be able to do anti-islanding testing.
I’m curious as to how that will work.
 
hillbilly1 said:
I have a feeling the author of the article doesn’t know what he is talking about, or misunderstands what Ford is saying. It appears to have grid tie capability, but unless some sort of transferswitch at the main is incorporated, it cannot power the house with utility off.
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Yeah, I’m sort of wondering about this also:
“This charger obviously must be professionally installed and includes the same safety hardware to prevent backcharging the grid and endangering line workers repairing storm damage. The details options for actually powering the grid via vehicle-to-grid charging may vary regionally.”
 
Hv&Lv said:
Dang!! Posted the wrong article. I was reading two or three different ones..:oops:

Thus is the one I meant to post..
10 kW is a pretty good supply.
www.motortrend.com

Ford's F-150 Lightning Charge Station Pro Boasts First Vehicle-to-Grid Charger

Power your home using the new F-150 Lightning EV pickup.
www.motortrend.com www.motortrend.com
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Excellent article, but it fails to explain how when they automatically detach
from the grid to protect line workers. They make it sound like the charger
is doing all the switching, but if they are back feeding using the power panel
feed, how is this possible? What is the “safety hardware” & would this need
to be covered by the NEC? To my way of thinking this should never be
possible to power the grid only your home for obvious safety reasons.
 
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