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Smart $ said:
...Most full-fledged CAD applications have a high learning curve. Some have a high learning curve even if one does have experience with another CAD app'. ...
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I'd agree with that. Probably another reason why I lean toward AutoCad

carl
 
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I apoligize for putting out bad math, I was in world of CAD - Pre Model and Page Space, I'm glad that some
of the package's have caught up.
It's still a ratio problem to apply correctly to font size and printable area,
how a package applies the desired setting. Frankly I found myself long ago marking down 1 /8 " of distance to see what the other scales desired
measured up to, but its no excuse for stating BAD math. Oh well I'll rub some dirt on it...
 
Earlier I mentioned doodling together a portion of my fence on sketchup - thought I'd toss the picture up here.

The clarity of the real thing is spot on, this version's quality is a little lacking to shrink it, to use the "attachment" feature of the forum. It was exported out as a jpeg, and then cropped with an HP program that came with my scanner/printer on the PC.

On the original, I can zoom in and out, pan around, and orbit objects fairly easily.

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I'll try doodling together some one-line-ish stuff tomorrow, and report back how hard a time I had. I got used to the three-dimensional use of the program fairly easily, I think two-dimensional should be a snap. For the most part, I haven't had a problem with the clever program moving things miles deep when it's not what I was asking for.
 
georgestolz said:
I recently downloaded Google Sketchup for my PC, I'm starting to get used to it. I haven't posted any pictures with it on the forum yet.
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I downloaded this the other day, and was surprised at the level of control, ease of use and features. In only a few minutes I realized I could do quite a lot with it! (See below - five minutes...) Then you can download whole assemblies pre-drawn (like that wall), and share your own... They also have a wide range of common building products and such, but no electrical items as of yet...

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Mark, if you drew that panel in five minutes, you have a much shorter learning curve than me. :cool:

But I agree, for a free product, it is startlingly easy to use and so on. :)
 
Smart $ said:
Just curious... exactly what does not having fax machine got to do with wanting a drawing/drafting program?
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Smart Money,
I am currently drawing machine schematics with a pencil and some drafting templates. Coils, contacts, timers and such for PLC's. All by hand.
Once the drawing is complete, I have to be able to send it to the recipient. Without a fax machine I have to go somewhere that does or deliver it. Which would be impossible.
 
John Valdes said:
...I am currently drawing machine schematics with a pencil and some drafting templates. Coils, contacts, timers and such for PLC's. All by hand. ...
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John - are you doing this for money, ie getting paid?

carl
 
hardworkingstiff said:
Wow, I bought TurboCAD (version 7) a few years ago and upgraded last year to TurboCAD Deluxe 12. I found it to be quite a good tool.
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Lou -
You must have missed my second post #14. I did retract - some.

carl
 
John Valdes said:
Smart Money,
I am currently drawing machine schematics with a pencil and some drafting templates. Coils, contacts, timers and such for PLC's. All by hand.
Once the drawing is complete, I have to be able to send it to the recipient. Without a fax machine I have to go somewhere that does or deliver it. Which would be impossible.
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OK.

So once you have a drawing program, how do you plan to deliver it? ...by email? ....posting the file or document image on a website or internet file server?

If you curently have a scanner and your computer has a fax/data/voice modem, you should be able to fax from your computer. I got rid of my fax machine years ago and any time I need to send a fax now, I use my scanner/PC. I've yet to upgrade to Vista so I'm not sure if your particular flavor has fax capability built into the operating system (OS) as it is (or similar to...) Windows XP Professional, which is what I'm currently running for my OS. However, for schematics, letter-size fax documents are quite lacking in visual clarity.

But if you have a scanner, you could capture a high resolution image of your hand drawings and email or post to a web server just the same as you could with a drawing program. The exception is?side-stepping neater, more professional drawings?vector-based drawing programs can output to vector-capable document formats in which the file size would be considerably smaller and resolution becomes a non-issue.
 
John Valdes said:
Smart Money,
I am currently drawing machine schematics with a pencil and some drafting templates. Coils, contacts, timers and such for PLC's. All by hand.
Once the drawing is complete, I have to be able to send it to the recipient. Without a fax machine I have to go somewhere that does or deliver it. Which would be impossible.
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Have you ever heard of The Constructor?
http://www.cmhsoftware.com/

You can draw schematics and then test the circuits to see if they work the way you designed them.
 
Smart Money, Yea I'm with you on the scanner idea. it would be the best way to send via PC. Not to mention the better quality than fax. And yes, Vista does have all the features you mentioned. But let me tell you. Keep your XP as long as you can. Vista should have never been released until they had this thing debugged. I got 8 updates yesterday.

Tim, That looks like one hell of a program. The ladder logic will be what I need. Thanks for the link. Now I just need the money to purchase it.
 
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