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[chris kennedy]

12/05/08. Another day at the beach. Whats that red stuff? Deep enough?

This is a 5" PVC POCO MV primary and a 2" feeder for pool panel and three 2" data com conduits. Any problems here?

 

[nolabama]

i absolutly hate underground

 

[LLSolutions]

I'm sure it beats digging in New York.

 

[chris kennedy]

i absolutly hate underground

I absolutely love it. Bulldozers and dirt.

 

[hardworkingstiff]

Any problems here?

What's the soil class?

I think if OSHA came on site you might get cited.

 

[chris kennedy]

What's the soil class?

I think if OSHA came on site you might get cited.

Look at the second picture. The ditch is stepped.

 

[hardworkingstiff]

Look at the second picture. The ditch is stepped.

I think OSHA would say you don't have your excavated material 2' or more fromt he edge of the excavation. I also think they may comment on the negative slope (1st picture on the left side as we are looking at it with the asphalt undercut and excavated material on top of it).

I'm not trying to bust your chops Chris. It's just not OSHA compliant.

 

[chris kennedy]

I'm not trying to bust your chops Chris. It's just not OSHA compliant.

Not a problem at all. I asked if anyone could see issues here. Bear in mind that the steps built here tend to disappear as the sun hits them and as we back fill. Cave ins are an issue here and it always happens on the side the sun hits.

Would you have an OSHA link for this type of work?

 

[quogueelectric]

20 yrs ago we were running 4" pipe in a trench similar to this. The trench caved in a little so eddie jumped down in the trench and started scooping out sand from the end of the 4"s .
At the last scoop he got his arm up to the elbow to get all the sand out. It was at this time that the trench colapsed a lot up to his neck with his arm stuck in the end of the pipe. He was trapped and the sand kept coming now over his mouth .
We were talking to the backhoe operator about crushing his arm off so we could save his life. We dug frantically and somehow got him out without any harm but a few mouthfulls of sand.
Not a fun moment. Work safe. Go home to your family every night this is just a job.

 

[hardworkingstiff]

Would you have an OSHA link for this type of work?

You can start here.

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/construction/trenching/mainpage.html

 

[wireguru]

20 yrs ago we were running 4" pipe in a trench similar to this. The trench caved in a little so eddie jumped down in the trench and started scooping out sand from the end of the 4"s .
At the last scoop he got his arm up to the elbow to get all the sand out. It was at this time that the trench colapsed a lot up to his neck with his arm stuck in the end of the pipe. He was trapped and the sand kept coming now over his mouth .
We were talking to the backhoe operator about crushing his arm off so we could save his life. We dug frantically and somehow got him out without any harm but a few mouthfulls of sand.
Not a fun moment. Work safe. Go home to your family every night this is just a job.

i can picture that conversation:
guy 1 to backhoe operator: "do you think you can rip his arm off, then scoop him out??"

day laborer: "hey...i have this shovel. maybe you could use it to dig him out or something"

guy in trench: "yeah! do what that second guy said!"

 

[220/221]

Ever use an 8' step ladder for underground work?

I had to re route conduit to clear several parking canopy posts (9 ' holes)

 

[bjp_ne_elec]

I'm sure it beats digging in New York.

Try NH - you need dynamite.

 

[nolabama]

try new orleans you need caissons and pumps

 

[hardworkingstiff]

Interesting

Interesting

I came across this just now.

http://www.trenchsafety.org/

 

[COFFEE TIME]

i maybe wrong. and you allready have it in there. but i think the warning tape is to be installed 6 to 12 inches below finish grade?

 

[Fulthrotl]

This is a 5" PVC POCO MV primary and a 2" feeder for pool panel and three 2" data com conduits. Any problems here?

well, it's awfully sandy, and the spoil isn't very far from the edge of the
ditch... it's a bit iffy... it's not like it's a square sided ditch or anything,
and you have some setbacks, but still.... osha'd prolly have a twinkie.

on the other hand, it sure beats digging in so calif. we have something
called caleiche, and it's about the consistency of asphalt, but stickier.
i have a hilti demo hammer with a clay spade, for a good reason.

how much separation you have between phone conduits and power?
the MV is shielded, but the LV isn't.... one foot is normally the separation.

randy

 

[360Youth]

I'm sure it beats digging in New York.

Up north it may take an hour to dig one ditch. At the beach it takes an hour dig dig the same ditch five times.:smile:

A hole that size, and no shovel. Nice. Why are you making the guys dig with their bare hands?

 

[iwire]

Ever use an 8' step ladder for underground work?

I had to re route conduit to clear several parking canopy posts (9 ' holes)

Going down in that hole is just plain stupid.

 

[360Youth]

Depends on how tall you are.