Gas range,dryer and Gas heat

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hbiss said:
That's because gas appliances use such a negligible amount that they don't have to be considered.



They are only saying that the appliance can be supplied by a 15A circuit. READ THE NAMEPLATE on gas dryers and ranges and use the actual numbers if it makes you happy. But according to Code you don't have to.

-Hal
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So you're saying that you can ignore the 12.6 amp load on the nameplate of the gas range in post #9?
 
Usually at the time when you do the load calcs for a house the only information you have is that there will be no electric appliances. Since according to the NEC, gas doesn't count so you don't add anything for them.

What happens down the road if the new home owner decides to replace his contractor grade gas range with that range in post#9? Load calcs are only an estimate and should result in a service sized where another 12 amps won't break the bank any more than including it in the original calcs (if you knew it) would result in a larger service.

However the Code is well aware that if that homeowner went to all electric appliances they very well may result in a larger service.

-Hal
 
hbiss said:
What happens down the road if the new home owner decides to replace his contractor grade gas range with that range in post#9? Load calcs are only an estimate and should result in a service sized where another 12 amps won't break the bank any more than including it in the original calcs (if you knew it) would result in a larger service.
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I agree.

If range outlet were connected to a SABC user still may not notice anything in many cases. Somebody that spends a lot of time cooking maybe has issues.
 
kwired said:
I agree.

If range outlet were connected to a SABC user still may not notice anything in many cases. Somebody that spends a lot of time cooking maybe has issues.
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I know the point that everyone is trying to make that even though you have a 12-15A gas range it would not have a big impact on your SABC. But i was wondering if there is any code reference to dryers and heaters...And if the same logic applies to both of them then what circuit will the dryer and heater will go on?Dryer on Washer/Dryer circuit and heater?
 
shortcircuit1 said:
I know the point that everyone is trying to make that even though you have a 12-15A gas range it would not have a big impact on your SABC. But i was wondering if there is any code reference to dryers and heaters...And if the same logic applies to both of them then what circuit will the dryer and heater will go on?Dryer on Washer/Dryer circuit and heater?
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jumper said:
I would not. No code reference. just common sense.:)
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I've been running a separate 20A circuit for the receptacle behind gas ranges anyway. Counts as an additional SABC. So that load would be covered.

Washer/gas dryer on the 20A laundry circuit. Are you talking about the HW heater? Gas heater uses no power unless it is one of the newer ones with a little forced draft blower which is negligible. I would put it on the heating (boiler/furnace) circuit.

-Hal
 
hbiss said:
I've been running a separate 20A circuit for the receptacle behind gas ranges anyway. Counts as an additional SABC. So that load would be covered.

Washer/gas dryer on the 20A laundry circuit. Are you talking about the HW heater? Gas heater uses no power unless it is one of the newer ones with a little forced draft blower which is negligible. I would put it on the heating (boiler/furnace) circuit.

-Hal
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Question is will you include the kW rating of these gas equipment in your calcs for a unit?
 
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