gas range on same circuit as Microwave

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jxofaltrds

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Dennis Alwon said:
You are getting so transparent. :)

First off I have yet to see a microwave range hood that didn't call for an individual circuit.

Do you think a range hood/ microwave doesn't have a flexible cord?

Why do you think a standard range hood without a cord doesn't have to be on an individual circuit but one with a cord does? Mike I think you like playing with people and being contrary. That's okay by me but sometimes you really drag out a thread with little bits of info at a time. :)
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Dennis you are correct I love to argue, but that does not change the facts. I will also admit that I like to be right. It is fun being right. BUT

We are discussing the NEC and its, sometimes poorly, wording.
 
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jxofaltrds said:
Dennis you are correct I love to argue, but that does not change the facts. I will also admit that I like to be right. It is fun being right. BUT

We are discussing the NEC and its, sometimes poorly, wording.
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Yes, sometimes it is...:) However you can make a proposal to get it changed rather than play with our heads. :grin:

Seriously I have made 3 proposals on this article. One was to include microwave/range hoods another-- you'll hate me, is to require an individual circuit for hoods & microwave hoods whether they are wired with cord or direct wired. Talk about not being a design manual. The third was to put an except. to #5 that is the same as in 210.52 which allows the hood to be on the same circuit as a gas range.

Well see-- probably none will get accepted.
 
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Dennis Alwon said:
Yes, sometimes it is...:) However you can make a proposal to get it changed rather than play with our heads. :grin:

Seriously I have made 3 proposals on this article. One was to include microwave/range hoods another-- you'll hate me, is to require an individual circuit for hoods & microwave hoods whether they are wired with cord or direct wired. Talk about not being a design manual. The third was to put an except. to #5 that is the same as in 210.52 which allows the hood to be on the same circuit as a gas range.

Well see-- probably none will get accepted.
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I agree with everything that you said except I think that 210.52 already allows this.
 
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jxofaltrds said:
"Additional small-appliance branch circuits shall be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the kitchen ***"

So what does this mean to you?
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Doesn't this just mean that you can provide 3, 4, 5, or however many SABCs you want in addition to the required two? A range hood still doesn't fall under the description of what can be connected to a SABC, as it is not listed in the exceptions under "No other outlets", 210.52(B)(2).
 
LarryFine

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jxofaltrds said:
What about a receptacle in the dining room? I'll bet it is more than 12" below the counter.

What do you call a microwave circuit?
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I'm guilty of that: I've placed a (not above the range) microwave receptacle and dining-room receptacles on one circuit.
 
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