GC dirty tricks

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tonyou812 said:
It just goes to show you what money does to people.
Repeat this to yourself over and over and over again because the moment you forget to do that it will come back and bite you (you know where). As far as working for GC's, take heed to what the others have mentioned here. There are no other jobs down the pike. If you believe there is then there is a bridge in NYC that I can get you a great price on !!! Your price will always be compared to some other unsuspecting electrician, not to mention that you'll probably never get to actually see any other ligitimate estimates. If I've said this once on this forum I've said it a hundred times, GC's will not allow you to make any money. They make all the money. Their job is to get the best possible product or output for the cheapest possible price, every time - every day. If you believe that you can start a good working relationship with a GC and that he'll toss you a lot of work - think again. Stop now before you get sucked in. I know this is a little hard to swallow when you're looking for work but take a tip from all of us who have been there and done that. Whatever arrangement you may plan to get into with a GC - do it with the utmost caution and don't be surprised if you come out on the short end.
 
tonyou812 said:
Just recently i was helping my lisensed Friend on the side. He just started out on his own and only has one helper. He said he was to busy to do it but he would let me keep most of the loot, i would in a sense be working under him and would be really doing him a favor. so i said why not. Im really not a side job guy unless its for friends or family(and i usally get paid in food or beer) but i did it and it really was a pain in the ass.... plaster ceilling, cut in cans three ways and four ways added on everywere, bath, master bedroom, a real nasty crawl space...the works. and in the end of the roughin about 5 weeks ago he tells me the builder or homeowner bounced a check and hes waiting for it to clear or get another one or something like that.. and says "How about I give you half of what we disscussed and half later. So now its later and just for giggles i drove by the house and i could see that the rest of the work has been finished by someone. I think it was my old friend but he told me that it hasnt even been inspected yet. He is full of crap and i almost want to ask the HO who finished the work but i feel that would come off as a bit cheesey. I had a good repoir with him and dont really want to compromise that over some short cash. the (1200$) What do you guys think?

I think your friend got paid, used the money for something thinking he'd catch up with you when he got his next check from whomever, never got caught up, and had to finish it himself as he couldn't tell you the truth.
 
goldstar said:
There are no other jobs down the pike.

Thats the way it is. No amount of potential future jobs is worth losing money on an existing job. I cannot remember how many times I have heard about how much future business a potential customer might bring, if the current project can be done on the cheap.

I have yet to see it happen.
 
If he was my so called friend and he stiffed me, I'd go see him.
All B*** S*** aside, if he owed me money for work done, I'd have to have it or something else of equal value, no excuses.
I'd take it personal. That may be the wrong way to handle it, but he made it personal when he came to you as a "friend" to help him.
"Right is right and wrong is wrong and never the twain shall meet".
We're talking money owed. Stuff like groceries, power bill, etc.
steve
 
I agree with Hillbilly if he was friend he would not have did what he did.
I have one GC that wants an estimate on every house I do for him and its allways the same " can you come down 10%" I then ask him is he going to pass the 10% down to the home owner, he smiles and walks away, and my price stays the same and he keeps me in plenty of work because if their is a problem I fix it.

Editted to remove inappropriate comment. - George
 
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I have a contractor that I uses me despite me being higher. He actually feels bad to put more that one guy up against another because he hates to waste their time. I think he takes "treat your neighbor as you want to be treated" to heart. The only reason he found out I was higher was because after we got the job, my schedule wouldn't allow it, so he got someone else and saved money. The other guy was cheaper but not as accommodating or quality conscious. I still get his work, but I think he is the exception to the rule. I?ve had other GC?s give me a job being higher just because they weren?t sure of what they were getting with the other guy.

I had another GC who always assured me I was more expensive go with another when I was $13,000 and the other was $9600. Even after he paid me to go back and fix mistakes, he still insisted it was worth it. I?m still not sure if that was his business sense or his pride talking. Total he still got it done for less than $13,000, but that doesn?t take into consideration his own nonproduction dealing with problems and what it might have done to his rep.
 
Take the guess work out of collecting

Take the guess work out of collecting

First file a notice to owner, you send it by cert mail or hand deliver it with your contract and have the HO sign it not the GC. get a copy of your states laws on construction liens give them a copy of this so you dont look like a bad guy and explane how they could pay for the work twice. All of this info is easily found on the web.

You MUST file it at the courthouse or it did not happen.

Second the day you start file a construction lien on the property, don't release the lien until you are paid in FULL. This must be filed at the courthouse as well, or....Always keep a copy of change orders with you in your pocket or what ever you will be asked "oh while you are here" just pretend you are a car dealership and your truck needs to be repaired they dont blink an eye when they charge you $600.00 to change your spark plugs.

If you have a respectful GC he wont have a problem with it you do not have to tell him what you are doing. This way everyone knows who ows who if you really want to be good include any subs names and all supply houses you use. You will find this a burden at first but I have been in the trade since 1972 and Master since 1978. still in buissiness never filed for bankruptcy and all of my customers are happy.

this will eliminate the " I TOLD YOU NOT TO WORK FOR HIM" AND LIFE WILL BE GOOD.

Always remember you teach people how to treat you. let the GC or HO respect your license that you just spent 8 yrs getting.
 
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