GC keeps nagging for more lights and temp power

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JohnME

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I have been on a project since October, it is a small ($120K electrically) commercial job. It is a 2 story, but the upstairs is just a small (80x20) room. I installed 4 temp 20a power circuits with 2 duplex gfi's at each spot, one set at the entrance to the job, two in the middle, and one at the rear. For a job of this size, it should be plenty.

I keep getting told they need more power, I say whatever- because they do not trip breakers very often (maybe twice a week one trips) and I do not make money on temp anything as you all know and feel the pain.

Lighting- The GC keeps saying they need more lights. I have 3 sets of stringers with at least 1-2 lights in every room. There is 3-4 weeks left until this project is totally done, and I was told at the end of the day today, in a rather aggressive manor, that they need more lights asap. I just do not understand this, as it is a construction site, not a finished workshop.

I put a light stand in the room on the second floor and called it good, as I really didnt want to drag power up there. I finally caved and brought a 12/3 romex up there, which passed outside the building at one point. I was told to take it down, as the wire was not rated for that use. This was the GC's safety man telling me this.

I am just so frustrated at this point it is killing me. I could spend a week stringing lights out for these guys to just take them down again. They are driving me up the wall and I am trying to make money here.

From a meeting I overheard, the GC isnt going to make a dime on this job, in fact, they have already lost money. I feel like they are just trying to screw me and any chance I have at making some coin at this point, but I know its probably not the intention.

VERY frustrated here..... Going to throw about 10 more lights up tomorrow and done deal.

I am VERY tempted to start hanging my 2x4 fixtures even though they have not painted, or have a grid up yet just to get my point across that if they would hurry up, we can get this behind us all and move on.

My temp lights were originally the cord and plug type, and their safety man told me that it was illeagle and they needed to be hardwired without a switching means. I said it was the first that I had heard of a UL listed product not being a legal means of connection for temp power.

These guys are driving me to drink.

Thanks for listening.
 
What does your contract say in regards to temp lights and power?

This is often (in my experience) forgotten by the GC, so it is a nice $ extra.
 
Are the breakers tripping or is it the GFIs tripping. If it the latter, I'd say your contracual obligation has been met.

Speaking of contracts, what does it say about temp power, other than you will provide it?

I would then demand the GC provide you with a toilet that flushes and a sink to wash your hands in so he can go hassle the turd herders.
 
From what I recall it says that I will provide sufficient temp power and maintain it (bulbs) for the duration of the project. I looked at the bid sheet and the office gave me $800 for it. Well thats long gone. Today they told me the flooring guy needs 480 volts for his spray unit or something, I said SURE no problem, I will just bill it out as time and material. He looked at me funny, and just stumbled out, oh okay.

This GC is the worst I have ever worked for.

They decided to keep their guys busy they would do the foundation work themselves, and frame it all up. Now they are behind. I was supposed to be roughed in by Christmas. Well 2 weeks ago is when I started, and was told I had 5 days to do it all. My original schedule allowed 20 days!!! I said I would do what I could. I did get it done, but my patience is now wearing thin.

I am trying to button up loose ends and finish this out, and they are driving me bat $hit!!!!!!!!
 
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I'd tell the GC that you have temp power and lights already, and I'd also tell the safety man to go jump in a lake, because he's all wet already. Both of those jokers sound like a couple of amateurs.
 
I said "you must be new" to the safety guy, I was right. The thing of it is, the GC has been at it for 30 years, but I guess some things dont get better with time. Really wearing on me. Some lights tomorrow, and I am DONE with temp anything. They just dont understand that lighting will not be as good as a workshop or finished product, I will be glad to finish this one and move on.
 
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I always push to finish the lighting asap so I can energize the newly ins.talled lighting and just hang a few lamps with cages in place of the 2x4 fixtures on the newly installed tails and just splice thru the switches in every room. I always run a 12/3 for power to a large 411 box with a twin decora mulberry cover. I feed 2 gfi breakers then run each ckts in opposite directions across the job so when the carpenters laborors spacklers or whoever trip the gfci they are perfectly capable of reseting it themselves and not waste my time resetting breakers for idiots with bad cords. It is amazing how quickly they smarten up when it starts to cost him money and not you wasting your time resetting breakers all day. When you set it up like this wasted time is at a minimum.
 
Sounds like your GC is one of those that, if you gave him a hundred-dollar bill, he'd gripe it wasn't five 20s.

And that's how some GCs act all the time. They think their purpose in life is to make the subs miserable. If you doubled the fixtures and circuits, he still wouldn't be happy. So why bother?
 
i don't know what the specs are, but i'd guarantee that there are OSHA required lighting levels for temp lights...find them, and see if you meet them...if you do, tell them to pound salt...if you don't meet them, don't tell anyone, just add more lights:D
 
Just started a Hospital Remodel & the specs call for a minimum of 1-100 watt lamp in each room (seems to be the industry standard).. Naturaly if your using Temp Stringers(10' spacing), you will automatically end up with more lamps per room.. BTW, I recently heard that GC's send their Supperintendents for Training to be _zz ___es!!!!
 
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Just started a Hospital Remodel & the specs call for a minimum of 1-100 watt lamp in each room (seems to be the industry standard).. Naturaly if your using Temp Stringers(10' spacing), you will automatically end up with more lamps per room..
I was digging around the other day and realized that those temp light strings really get away from you fast. I have no idea where they go over the years. I think people eat them on lunch break.
 
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