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Jimmy,
The questions you asked are valid questions.It's nice to see someone not just satisfied with just doing the labor of this trade and not inquiring into the actual process and reasoning.Jimmy we were all helpers once"except IWIRE he came out of the womb doing ambient temperature corrections.":D When I first started 22 years ago I honestly did'nt even realize there were wires in walls.Dumb as dirt as some would say.The most important thing for you as a New helper is to show up ON time everyday,watch what the journeymen are doing and try to think ahead of them,ie if he is running conduit be ready to throw him a strap,coupling,or connector when the time comes etc. I f you don't have anything to do don't just stand around waiting for orders ask "what's next" or just start cleaning up until further instruction is givin.Save up and buy a CURRENT code book.Do not fool yourself and think your going to start on page one and read it like a novel,it will confuse you .Break it down to what you do today.After work if you've ran Romex go home and read Art.334 type NM,if you put in recpeptacles all day go home and read Art.406..That will help you get used to the wording and installling recepts all day will help you picture what is being said.Keywords Uses permitted,Uses Not Permitted.Always reffer to Art 100 for definitions never guess what something is. Your idea of a conduit body may not be the same as the NEC's definition of a conduit body etc. The most important is to never stop asking questions.In time you'll learn who to ask for the CORRECT answer and who not to ask.If someone tells you "This is the Code!" Go home and see if you can find it in the book.When you get more familar with the Code you will be surprised how unfamilar some Experts on the job are. You will not find a better resource than this forum.I wish I would have had an Electrical Forum when I was a helper.Maybe then I would'nt have dug so many ditches! lol Good Luck Jimmy!
 
Jimmy,
Keep it up. When I started they had to explain what an EMT coupling & connector were. But I didn't give up. Now I've been in the trade almost 20yrs.
I tell apprentices the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. The question you ask could save your life (esp. as in regards to safety).
View looking up things in the NEC as a challenge. I worked, as an apprentice, with an "old timer" that would tell me something was in the NEC, I would look it up.Some times he was right and some times he was wrong (bummer).
 
OKIE, I hear ya!! When I was coming up in the trade I had so many "Old Timers" tell me "You can't do that boy that's illegal do it this way!"After I'd spent all weekend reading a code section over and over again and learning the correct way.Then having to violate it on Monday cause the journeyman didnt agree with me cause I'm just a helper! lol
 
Same questions different answers in a way.......

  1. The day you're punching the stud work because you just cut a wire too short - or pulled 300' of 2/0X4 and needed 300'1" you will fully understand - GO LONG! One better - Go long enough for the next run... You'll use it sooner or later.
  2. Odd are if it has a UL label and wasn't made in someones garage AND completely encased with a non-metallic exterior, no exposed metal at all after or during installation - then it just may not have a place for you to attach an EGC - some examples are plastic boxes, smoke detectors, photo-cells. An example of this question being ask SOOOO many times by avid professionals is emergency exit lighting where they changed the design of all plastic models to have a tiny useless metal bar in them just to have a ground wire on them - just to shut people up...
  3. Some zealots will say "You can not splice in a panel!" - Just smile, and reply "Really?!" - but do it in the same sing/songy tone you tell them something else less nice.... :D
Anyway the guy over you will probably have time sooner or later to answer all your questions at BREAK TIME.... Just spread them out so he doesn't break you... ;)
 
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and to really find the answewrs

and to really find the answewrs

obtain a copy of AMERICAN ELECTRICIANS' HANDBOOK

I found a NINTH EDITION book for $1, well worth the expense

I have read that later editions are contradictory
 
Denis said:
ambidextrious wirenutter
I hope that means that you can turn the wirenut to the right, with either hand, and not that you turn them to the right with your right hand and left with your left. 'Cause I hate a backward spun wirenut... Tape too! :rolleyes:
 
Jimmy,

Good questions! Hang in there it's a good trade and the best way to learn it is formally through an apprenticeship. I'd take one of you over an arrogant journeyman, the work would still get done and we'd all learn something.
 
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