GFCI at ice tub

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jap said:
My condensate pan below my blower unit at home fills up with water when the air conditioner is on, which has a drain piped out of it, so I guess its a sink also.


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Most likely have a condensate pan under your refrigerator as well.
 
Perhaps we need a definition of a sink. Recall when we had to install GFCIs in bathrooms, all of a sudden no one knew what a bathroom was, next code cycle (75?) we had a bathroom definition.
Same issue in 2002 when commercial kitchens required GFCI, all of a sudden " what is a kitchen". Turns out an employee break room with a microwave and sink is not a kitchen.
In Washington our code rules fixed that, a kitchen is somewhere that dishes are washed or food/beverages are prepared. So now, if you wash dishes in a metal garden tub, is that a kitchen???
 
tom baker said:
Perhaps we need a definition of a sink. Recall when we had to install GFCIs in bathrooms, all of a sudden no one knew what a bathroom was, next code cycle (75?) we had a bathroom definition.
Same issue in 2002 when commercial kitchens required GFCI, all of a sudden " what is a kitchen". Turns out an employee break room with a microwave and sink is not a kitchen.
In Washington our code rules fixed that, a kitchen is somewhere that dishes are washed or food/beverages are prepared. So now, if you wash dishes in a metal garden tub, is that a kitchen???
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Once when we were remodeling our kitchen we washed dishes in the bathtub, not sure what that has to do with this conversation though as the GFCI was required anyway because the tub was in the bathroom. Plus the "sink" in the employee break room now needs GFCI within 6 feet also.

My point of view is still this is not a sink unless maybe it at least has a permanent plumbing connection to it. If the area it is in also happens to qualify as a kitchen then GFCI it is, or if there happens to also be a sink in immediate vicinity then 6 feet from that sink may overlap the area used by this ice tub.

If NEC should decide to add a definition for sink then it may or may not fit that definition, we would have to see it first.
 
tom baker said:
Perhaps we need a definition of a sink. Recall when we had to install GFCIs in bathrooms, all of a sudden no one knew what a bathroom was, next code cycle (75?) we had a bathroom definition.
Same issue in 2002 when commercial kitchens required GFCI, all of a sudden " what is a kitchen". Turns out an employee break room with a microwave and sink is not a kitchen.
In Washington our code rules fixed that, a kitchen is somewhere that dishes are washed or food/beverages are prepared. So now, if you wash dishes in a metal garden tub, is that a kitchen???
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Normal people who weren't in the electrical field would probably look at some of the conversations we have on this forum trying to figure out exactly what things are and think we were all idiots. :)

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jap said:
Normal people who weren't in the electrical field would probably look at some of the conversations we have on this forum trying to figure out exactly what things are and think we were all idiots. :)

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There are probably forums for attorneys that don't even come close to what we get here, but who says they are normal:D
 
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