GFCI breaker required for outdoor NEMA 14-50 receptacle for EV charger?

[wondervamp]

Hi,

Installing a NEMA 14-50 POP: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-50-Amp-1-Space-1-Circuit-Temporary-RV-Power-Outlet-Box-CHU1S/100565603 outdoors for a Tesla 3 in Berkeley, CA. and unclear if I need to install a 50A GFCI breaker at the panel?

 

[Little Bill]

Hi,

Installing a NEMA 14-50 POP: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Eaton-5...Temporary-RV-Power-Outlet-Box-CHU1S/100565603 outdoors for a Tesla 3 in Berkeley, CA. and unclear if I need to install a 50A GFCI breaker at the panel?

Two questions:
Is the install at a dwelling?
What code cycle is CA on?

 

[ptonsparky]

Two questions:
Is the install at a dwelling?
What code cycle is CA on?

I seem to work more with non-dwellings so I had to go back to my 2017 and look. All I have at home. That and CRS. It appears that a dwelling would not require the GFCI protection, but anywhere else would. Even if outside at the dwelling. 2017 NEC.

 

[kwired]

I seem to work more with non-dwellings so I had to go back to my 2017 and look. All I have at home. That and CRS. It appears that a dwelling would not require the GFCI protection, but anywhere else would. Even if outside at the dwelling. 2017 NEC.

Completely logical, right?

 

[rnatalie]

All the EVSE's I've seen have built in GFCI to protect the car end of the thing.

As far as the code goes, the rules are only 15/20A 120V receptacles in the garage require GFCI. Of course if the load manufacturer says you need one or you feeding a load like pool motors that require them elsewhere in the code, you will have to.

 

[wondervamp]

Two questions:
Is the install at a dwelling?
What code cycle is CA on?

Yes the install is at a residence outside.
CA is on 2014 NEC currently

 

[kwired]

All the EVSE's I've seen have built in GFCI to protect the car end of the thing.

As far as the code goes, the rules are only 15/20A 120V receptacles in the garage require GFCI. Of course if the load manufacturer says you need one or you feeding a load like pool motors that require them elsewhere in the code, you will have to.

For a dwelling you are correct. Non dwellings a 50 amp 250 volt receptacle (or 125/250) is included in the general requirements of 210.8(B) in the 2017 NEC.

Same receptacle same load as well as similar conditions but some reason it isn't as big of a hazard at a dwelling I guess

 

[Little Bill]

Yes the install is at a residence outside.
CA is on 2014 NEC currently

No GFCI required then on 50A.