GFCI for water fountain

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Does not mean he is at an increased risk of being shocked.

This reasoning is still a step toward "why not GFCI protect everything".

Per OSHA guidelines, shouldn't that plumber unplug the water fountain?

I guess my thought is under a drinking fountain could be just as much a wet location as a kitchen prep area
 
I guess my thought is under a drinking fountain could be just as much a wet location as a kitchen prep area
Only when something goes wrong, otherwise it is not a wet location.

If your second floor bathroom located over your living room should develop a leak in some plumbing line does that make the living room a wet location?
 
Only when something goes wrong, otherwise it is not a wet location.

If your second floor bathroom located over your living room should develop a leak in some plumbing line does that make the living room a wet location?

I see your point, I have just reached up in a lot of hand holes for fountains, got my fingers across the plug cap blades a couple times, pretty tight in there.

We cannot protect against every developed safety concern though.

It’s really a non-issue here even under the 2008 NEC since the manufactures require GFCI protection anyhow.
 
They are not called "drinking fountains" anymore. They are called drinking water coolers (2017). As someone previously stated, most of the newer models are open on the bottom, thereby making the "readily accessible" requirement a non-issue.
 
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And how often do you really think anyone tests the ones that are in plain sight?

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At my facilities, all equipment (manufacturing/facilities) is on a PM system administered by a CMMS (Computerized Maintenance Management System). This includes the monthly GFI test; the CMMS PM order includes a facilities map showing all locations with check-boxes. This document is saved with the PM record for logging purposes. (This protocol is followed for hundreds of PM's that fall under a multi-location route.) We're a Medical Device Manufacturer, so we fall under CFR and ISO regs. Everything is documented. But it works (for any with in-house maintenance departments), and isn't hard to set up regardless of what kind of commercial/manufacturing situation you might be dealing with.
 
At my facilities, all equipment (manufacturing/facilities) is on a PM system administered by a CMMS (Computerized Maintenance Management System). This includes the monthly GFI test; the CMMS PM order includes a facilities map showing all locations with check-boxes. This document is saved with the PM record for logging purposes. (This protocol is followed for hundreds of PM's that fall under a multi-location route.) We're a Medical Device Manufacturer, so we fall under CFR and ISO regs. Everything is documented. But it works (for any with in-house maintenance departments), and isn't hard to set up regardless of what kind of commercial/manufacturing situation you might be dealing with.

Then your pretty well in line with my post #6 of suggesting the maintenance department should take care of PM of a GFCI in a public place.

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At my facilities, all equipment (manufacturing/facilities) is on a PM system administered by a CMMS (Computerized Maintenance Management System). This includes the monthly GFI test; the CMMS PM order includes a facilities map showing all locations with check-boxes. This document is saved with the PM record for logging purposes. (This protocol is followed for hundreds of PM's that fall under a multi-location route.) We're a Medical Device Manufacturer, so we fall under CFR and ISO regs. Everything is documented. But it works (for any with in-house maintenance departments), and isn't hard to set up regardless of what kind of commercial/manufacturing situation you might be dealing with.

My response was a rebuttal to post #19.

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