GFCI in a bathroom

[david luchini]

The receptacles are side by side. One is swiched. One is not. One is for lighting of a tv/mirror combo (very cool expensive tv I might add) and one if for the tv. When the tv is up on the wall the receptacles will NOT be accessable. There are other receptacle(s) in the room on different circuit(s) that satisfy the code. These are in addition to them.

That's what I had gathered from your posts.

I got it now. I was thinking one was for the vanity and the other for the tv/mirror. The TV GFCI is unswitched and the mirror GFCI is switched. Well it is a bad design in my eyes. If they are the same circuit then I would use a dead face gfci in line before the switches to the GFCI recep. in question. You could then eliminate the gfci's behind the tv/mirror.

If you use the GFI device that Dennis suggests, I would envision one duplex receptacle behind the mirror instead of two. Split wire the duplex receptacle so that one receptacle is switched and one is always powered. The GFI device would be installed in an accessible location.

 

[Dexie123]

It's a terrible design Dennis. It's an extra in a mixed use property with this part being a hotel and above that condo's. When we were doing the actually wiring it was last summer. Now that we're doing the install the GC and project manager finally see the end product and they don't like it.

A faceless gfci doesn't really work. The feed goes into the box and then goes over to the switch. They'll never go for a a switch over gfci in the hall for the bath either. Mostly the proj manager is saying it doesn't need to be gfci protected to cover his own ass. We all disagree.

When it was being designed it was such a big rush to get it done. Haste makes waste. Always has always will. Always. Phenominal how many times that lesson needs to be learned.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

They have a choice to make. There is the esthetic one and the legal one. I hope they choose the legal one.

What is below the switches. Can you not drop a dead front GFCI down near the floor from the switch box. It would be easy to fish the line and load up to the switch. The dead front will not be that visible down low.

 

[Dexie123]

Thanks for your help all, esp Dennis. Dennis I'd say if we had to drop a wire, cut in another box, etc... the customer would have a heart attack. And my company would never go for it. They'd probably be more like to just leave it the way it is. There are 50 rooms where this is an issue and my company would never ever eat the labor and material (probably overtime) to acccomidate anyone.

Thanks.

 

[kwired]

The biggest issue that the GC is having is if the gfci trips how do you reset it? The tv will make it impossible to do this as it's too heavy to just move and reset.

Thanks for your reply's

Do you expect it to trip often? My guess is probably not very often at all if nothing except for the TV is on load side. I would have no problem with GFCI breaker or GFCI located where accessible for resetting easily. If TV is not working guests are going to call the main desk to have it fixed so GFCI breaker is not a problem in that way either.

Again what I said in post #3

Put GFCI receptacle or GFCI face eleswhere in bathroom and feed the receptacles in question from the load side of it.

 

[Dexie123]

Thanks for your help Kwired