GFCI In Bedroom

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What gets me is the original idea of gfci was to protect people who are trying to use the outlet. So now if you have a range receptacle that is 6' from a sink then the receptacle must be gfci protected. Is someone likely to use that outlet, no.... okay so it is there to protect the appliance, uh no because the outlet can be more than 6' away but the range could still be closer. I just don't get it
 
Dennis Alwon said:
What gets me is the original idea of gfci was to protect people who are trying to use the outlet. So now if you have a range receptacle that is 6' from a sink then the receptacle must be gfci protected. Is someone likely to use that outlet, no.... okay so it is there to protect the appliance, uh no because the outlet can be more than 6' away but the range could still be closer. I just don't get it
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More so original idea was to protect those using the receptacle, and mostly only applied to places where users had higher risk of being grounded somehow. And the only receptacles it applied to were 5-15 an 5-20 types which are more prone to having missing/broken EGC pins, making the hazards even greater.

Then they start to add different requirements because of one incident here or there, turning it into a "what if" scenario.

"What if" has no boundaries, and when they added some requirements in 2017 that involve three phase circuits the reasoning was mostly "because we have devices that can do that now", more so than any evidence that there was any incidents happening.
 
This 6' rule discussion has always been exhausting to say the least.

I think the interpretation of it,or lack there of, is what's driving the trend towards ground fault protection for everything that will eventually clear all of this up for everyone.

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I can see someone plugging in an extension cord in the bedroom, running the cord under the bathroom door to power the treadmill parked in the bathroom. Yes, I've seen pictures of large, expansive bathrooms complete with sauna closet, TV, etc. etc.
 
SP78 said:
If there is an outlet in a master bedroom that is within 6 feet of a shower in the master bathroom when the bathroom door is open does that outlet need to be GFCI protected?
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I believe it has to be GFCI protected


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Unfortunately the truth of the matter is, many people that want a heater next to the bathtub can simply add an extension cord from any outlet in their home... then what. I suppose the whole point of the within 6 ft rule is it helps remove the liability from the installer. Then there's the bath exhaust fan that some inspectors want on a GFI .. I suppose I get it , but come on when does ridiculous end.
 
Another C10 said:
Unfortunately the truth of the matter is, many people that want a heater next to the bathtub can simply add an extension cord from any outlet in their home... then what. I suppose the whole point of the within 6 ft rule is it helps remove the liability from the installer. Then there's the bath exhaust fan that some inspectors want on a GFI .. I suppose I get it , but come on when does ridiculous end.
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Those exhaust fans have instructions (haven't seen any that don't) that require GFCI. Typically only if located directly over tub or shower though.
 
kwired said:
Those exhaust fans have instructions (haven't seen any that don't) that require GFCI. Typically only if located directly over tub or shower though.
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I suppose they should simply make the whole house GFI-AFCI protected, that would just about cover any possible scenario.
 
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