GFCI on refrigerator outlet

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mdshunk said:
So far, nobody's said where this refrigerator is, for sure.
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Aren't refrigerators supposed to be in the kitchen ? If you choose to have additional refers or locate them elsewhere in the house then you rightfully should be subject to whatever codes apply to the areas you keep them in.

I'm not reading anything in 210.8 or 210.52 that says (specificly) the refer has to be GFCI protected. Did I miss something ?
 
guschash said:
2008 code page 99 in workbook says Exception #2 to 210.52(B)(1).
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What about it? :confused:

That exception allows a 15 or 20 amp individual branch circuit to supply the refrigerator, it does not have to be supplied from a small appliance branch circuit that is all.

It has nothing to do with GFCIs. :smile:
 
It says the refrigerator and shows in Exhibit 210.26 does not have to be on GFIC. Isn't that what this thread started discussing?
 
guschash said:
It says the refrigerator and shows in Exhibit 210.26 does not have to be on GFIC. Isn't that what this thread started discussing?
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Yes, but 210.52((B)(1) exception 2 does not address GFCI protection at all.

The commentary exhibit does show that GFCI protection isn't needed, but the commentary is unenforceable. The place to find GFCI requirements is 210.8.
 
iwire said:
Or garages, or basements or wet bars or outdoors at the grill or commercial kitchens...
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and the next sentence I wrote reads :
If you choose to have additional refers or locate them elsewhere in the house then you rightfully should be subject to whatever codes apply to the areas you keep them in.
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I still don't see where it says that the kitchen refrigerator has to be GFI protected. If you choose to cook in your garage, basement or at your grill and want to have your refer close by then so be it but the circuit supplying it will have to be GFI protected. I thought I made that clear but maybe I didn't.
 
I still don't see where it says that the kitchen refrigerator has to be GFI protected.
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Making two assumptions, 1) we are talking about a dwelling unit kitchen, and 2) the refrigerator is not plugged into a receptacle that is intended to serve the kitchen countertop, then I agree that there is no code rule that requires GFCI protection.
The rule that requires GFCI protection within 6' of a sink does not apply to kitchen sinks. 210.8(A)(7).
Don
 
goldstar said:
I still don't see where it says that the kitchen refrigerator has to be GFI protected.
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Where did I say it did?

But I still don't see that we know where this refrigerator is in a home kitchen or in any kitchen at all. (I bet it is a home kitchen, but we do not know that)

If it is in a home kitchen then I agree with you, but I already said that. :smile:

Only the receptacles that serve the counter top must be GFCI protected, the receptacle located behind the refrigerator is not intended to serve the counters and does not require GFCI protection
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But, it this is in a commercial kitchen then the refrigerator will have to be GFCI protected assuming it has a 15 or 20 amp 125 volt cord cap.
 
iwire said:
But, if this is in a commercial kitchen then the refrigerator will have to be GFCI protected assuming it has a 15 or 20 amp 125 volt cord cap.
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Agreed. Based on the inference of the OP many of us made the assumption that this is a residential kitchen. We all know what happens when you make assumptions.
 
when installing said GCFI...ground up or down?

what if I put a mini fridge in my bedroom? GFCI required?
 
iwire said:
LOL :grin:

Yes, no, your a pig, no.
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?....I only asked 2 questions, and only one was a yes/no type.....so what are you answering?

i guess you never went to college? every fraternity house in the country has a mini fridge in every bedroom...:D
 
emahler said:
every fraternity house in the country has a mini fridge in every bedroom...:D
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Many dorm rooms too. But because of that whole problem with extension cords and electrical fires many schools don't allow them in student rooms.
 
emahler said:
?....I only asked 2 questions, and only one was a yes/no type.....so what are you answering?
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when installing said GCFI...ground up Yes or down? No

what if I put a mini fridge in my bedroom? Your a pig GFCI required? No.

It's joke people don't get upset. :smile:
 
iwire said:
when installing said GCFI...ground up Yes or down? No

what if I put a mini fridge in my bedroom? Your a pig GFCI required? No.

It's joke people don't get upset. :smile:
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i never would have figured you for the joking type....:D
 
emahler said:
i guess you never went to college?
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I didn't want to have to tell everyone but Bob has another life as a mascot:

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