GFCI protection

[Bill Snyder]

Hey gang I am tasked with installing 2 EVSE charging stations in the parking lot within 9' of lake water. Is there any codes I have to worry about the manufacturer's instructions say personnel protection is provided in the equipment. TIA

 

[augie47]

You might want to take a look at Art 682 You are beyond the 5ft horizontal requirement but might still be in the Datum Plane

 

[mtnelect]

What is your liability insurance level ?

 

[mtnelect]

This might help, but it is for California.

 

[Bill Snyder]

You might want to take a look at Art 682 You are beyond the 5ft horizontal requirement but might still be in the Datum Plane

So good to go thanks for the reference sir!

 

[Bill Snyder]

What is your liability insurance level ?

NEC compliance level

 

[mtnelect]

As time go on ... It is getting more and more difficult to do anything !

 

[mtnelect]

NEC compliance level

In this day and age ... You must be selective on which projects you sign up to.

 

[mtnelect]

It was "Touch & Go" but I made it. I could write a book about how to make it !

 

[electrofelon]

What is your liability insurance level ?

In this day and age ... You must be selective on which projects you sign up to.

Is there some increased difficulty or an increased liability for EV chargers?

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Hey gang I am tasked with installing 2 EVSE charging stations in the parking lot within 9' of lake water. Is there any codes I have to worry about the manufacturer's instructions say personnel protection is provided in the equipment. TIA

Are the chargers hardwired or cord and plug connected?

 

[rc/retired]

Are the chargers hardwired or cord and plug connected?

Good question. 625.54 requires EV receptacles to have GFCI protection per 2020 NEC.

Ron

 

[Bill Snyder]

Are the chargers hardwired or cord and plug connected?

Hardwired to 2 individual branch circuits

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Hardwired to 2 individual branch circuits

I don't know how to apply 682.15(A) as there is no distance from the water. You will need to ask YOUR AHJ where that section applies

 

[mtnelect]

Is there some increased difficulty or an increased liability for EV chargers?

You are exposed to a higher risk of being sued, because you have many people using the charger(s).
Also, the organization that is having the charger(s) installed usually will want to be included on your policy as an additional insured.

 

[electrofelon]

You are exposed to a higher risk, because you have many people using the charger(s).

Not sure I follow that reasoning. Most jobs, particularly if non residential, will have a zillion people around and utilizing the electricity in one way or another.....

 

[rc/retired]

You are exposed to a higher risk of being sued, because you have many people using the charger(s).
Also, the organization that is having the charger(s) installed usually will want to be included on your policy as an additional insured.

Should I and my family lock ourselves inside?

 

[rc/retired]

Hardwired to 2 individual branch circuits

I don't have the 2023 NEC nor do I know if Colorado has adopted the 23 code. That said, under the 2020, GFCI protection is not required.

Ron

 

[mtnelect]

Just my point ... On all my maintenance contracts at produce warehouses, I am required to include them on my insurance policy as an additional insured with higher coverage.

 

[retirede]

Just my point ... On all my maintenance contracts at produce warehouses, I am required to include them on my insurance policy as an additional insured with higher coverage.

That makes no sense. A hard-wired EVSE is one of the safest pieces of equipment out there. It has integral GFCI, and the output cable cannot be energized until the pilot signal establishes communication with the vehicle which can’t happen until it’s plugged in to the car.