Give me some slack?

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We're also picky enough to know that end the end, especially if it's going to be a mast attachment, we're going to face the weatherhead towards the service pole in most cases.

In this case it would have given the installer a hint that his wasn't going to work out to begin with.


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I have dealt with several POCOs. Only one comes to mind as having a specific length of conductor left for the lineman. It was 30". Most cut it back to about 24". The problem I see with that installation is there isn't a loop.:happysad::happysad:
 
drcampbell said:
If it were clay chimney liner, perhaps. But if it's properly solvent welded, there's no longer any "bell end" or "coupler" there; it's now one continuous piece of PVC. (with double the wall thickness in one spot)
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Yes, but, if the bell were turned down as it should be, there wouldn't need to be any solvent whatsoever to keep the water out, so, why not do that to begin with?

Sometimes things need to be installed a certain way just because it makes sense.

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ptonsparky said:
I hope they have an expansion joint in there somewhere because that top strap won’t hold long at -20 F
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Expansion coupling not needed when the end is free to move.

Also it looks like the connection has put enough pressure on the siding to make it crack.
 
The blame on this install is two fold.

One on the electrician for putting the riser in a place not in line with the service pole without the corner getting in the way, and two,on the power company for coming around the corner, hooking it up anyway, and, not leaving any slack for a drip loop.


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Hey,
I know how much we get a kick out of "critiquing" other electricians workmanship.
I would like to doubt that the electrician installed the service and left it in that condition.
Typically this is the result of a pole being replaced or damaged done to the overhead conductors and the conductors being shortened.
It almost looks like the vinyl siding contractor cut around one of the connections/ splices or is something else going on there?

Maybe Tonype has some more insight to this he could share.
 
jap said:
The blame on this install is two fold.

One on the electrician for putting the riser in a place not in line with the service pole without the corner getting in the way, and two,on the power company for coming around the corner, hooking it up anyway, and, not leaving any slack for a drip loop.


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Look at how short the service drop cable is beyond the point of attachment. Chances are this was existing drop and a service upgrade situation and reason the drop cable is so short. Had the drop cable been longer there likely would have been more "drip loop" sag left there after connection.

Some POCO may have spliced onto the drop cable anyway to make it longer.

I don't see the corner being in the way. If it is, the drop cable would be rubbing the corner, which will create other problems down the road.
 
My POCO's (I have several in my service area) require I leave 36" out of the weatherhead. Most of the time they do not bother to cut it back to a length that would look nice.
 
kwired said:
Look at how short the service drop cable is beyond the point of attachment. Chances are this was existing drop and a service upgrade situation and reason the drop cable is so short. Had the drop cable been longer there likely would have been more "drip loop" sag left there after connection.

Some POCO may have spliced onto the drop cable anyway to make it longer.

I don't see the corner being in the way. If it is, the drop cable would be rubbing the corner, which will create other problems down the road.
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Looks to me like it is rubbing the corner.

You can even tell by the wedge clamp on the Telephone Cable (that's more than likely coming from the same pole) that that's the case.

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jap said:
Looks to me like it is rubbing the corner.

You can even tell by the wedge clamp on the Telephone Cable (that's more than likely coming from the same pole) that that's the case.

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It appears to me that even if the insulated wires are not rubbing at least one of the insulated connectors is.

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Who knows... from what we can see of this snapshot , this may be a perfectly legit install with slack and a drip loop, only to find out that there's a 60' oak tree laying across the overhead, just outside of picture.


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It may or may not have the service drop rubbing the corner of the building. Certainly could have placed the POA around the corner and still have meter/riser conduit where it is, maybe they wanted to do that but things wouldn't quite reach that way, so they did this instead
 
ptonsparky said:
I hope they have an expansion joint in there somewhere because that top strap won’t hold long at -20 F
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we have to abide by the poco but I like 36 inches and let the lineman do what they want, the pvc in the pic is pretty far away from the drop - someone mentioned strain on the drop - its held by itself attached to the drop - nec says 24 inches from the head and below is where it should be 12 inches the 24 rule is an exception where no other means is available:weeping:
 
jbelectric777 said:
we have to abide by the poco but I like 36 inches and let the lineman do what they want, the pvc in the pic is pretty far away from the drop - someone mentioned strain on the drop - its held by itself attached to the drop - nec says 24 inches from the head and below is where it should be 12 inches the 24 rule is an exception where no other means is available:weeping:
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Code section that says this?

Local rules or POCO rules maybe.
 
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