Grid Tied Inverter With a Backup Generator

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Actually, that's not necessarily true. In a laboratory setting I have gotten a Sunny Boy, a Sunny Island, and a Generac generator to play nicely with each other in a small off grid system. Initially, the Sunny Island was acting as the grid and the Sunny Boy didn't know the difference. When the batteries dropped below the SOC trigger point I programmed in, the Sunny Island started up the generator and went into bypass mode, and the Sunny Boy kept running. The Sunny Boy recognized the power from the generator as grid and kept producing power to assist in charging the batteries and running the AC loads. When the batteries were topped off, the Sunny Island shut down the generator, went into inversion mode, and munged the frequency of its output to throttle back the Sunny Boy. It's a pretty cool system.

But please note that there are batteries and a battery inverter (Sunny Island) at the heart of the system. The Sunny Island prevents the Sunny Boy from backfeeding the generator.

Totally agree with you with battery based systems. My comments were directed at the standard grid tied systems of which the overwhelming majority do not have battery backups.

There are inverter companies who see a market for these grid tied battery based systems known as AC coupling. This site has good information:

http://www.civicsolar.com/resource/ac-coupling

I think it is a pretty expensive way to go to get backup. Really it doesn't make any financial sense IMHO.
 
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Totally agree with you with battery based systems. My comments were directed at the standard grid tied systems of which the overwhelming majority do not have battery backups.

There are inverter companies who see a market for these grid tied battery based systems known as AC coupling. This site has good information:

http://www.civicsolar.com/resource/ac-coupling

I think it is a pretty expensive way to go to get backup. Really it doesn't make any financial sense IMHO.
Whether it makes financial sense or not is very situational. After Hurricane Ike shut down power to parts of Houston for seven weeks or more, the small solar company I was working for at the time experienced a surge of inquiries about whole house battery backup systems with solar from individuals who didn't even blink at the $150k+ estimate just for the batteries. I do not know if any of those systems were actually built, but there are folks to whom it does make financial sense because they a) have more money than they know what to do with, b) place a very high value on having uninterrupted power during a grid outage, and/or c) have been inconvenienced during such an event or are convinced that the whole grid system is going down a rabbit hole. Does it make financial sense to me? No, but I don't meet any of the above criteria. I wouldn't mind trying a) for a while, though. :D
 
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