Ground / bond ?

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jimbo123

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A 200 amp panel has two sub panels fed from it in same building with gal conduit with 3 wires. This one sub is wired just like the main. Do I need the fourth wire once I remove the bond from the sub and install a bar for all the egc on the neutral bar ?
thanks to all for their help.
 

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You would only need a 4th wire for an equipment ground if the GRC did not provide a low impedance path for grounding.
 

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What do you mean by galvanized conduit? EMT or GRC?

If it is GRC and in good shape I would use it as my eequipment ground. If EMT I would poke around a bit more but would most likely use it. Pulling a fourth wire would be my fith choice; if the conduit isn't suitable for EGC then there are more problems to address.
 

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If you're now using the metallic conduit as an EGC then some other code issues may arise, what's the voltage?
 

jimbo123

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voltage is 3W 120/240 sub is about 5' from main . Conduit is treaded 1.25" with double locknuts and bushing. My thinking is to remove the bond in the sub and install a ground bar for the egc's. Does anyone see anything else I might need to do. Thanks again.
Right now this sub panel is wired just like the main panel using 3 wires . I like to correct this and be sure its correct.
 
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I;m in agreement and this question would not change the answer IMO but is the sub fed by a breaker in the main or is it "feed thru" ?
 

jimbo123

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voltage is 3W 120/240 sub is about 5' from main . Conduit is treaded 1.25" with double locknuts and bushing. My thinking is to remove the bond in the sub and install a ground bar for the egc's. Does anyone see anything else I might need to do. Thanks again.
Right now this sub panel is wired just like the main panel using 3 wires . I like to correct this and be sure its correct.
it is feed with a breaker from the main panel.
 

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A 200 amp panel has two sub panels fed from it in same building with gal conduit with 3 wires. This one sub is wired just like the main. Do I need the fourth wire once I remove the bond from the sub and install a bar for all the egc on the neutral bar ?
thanks to all for their help.

Yes.
 
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