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It is funny, I support the legalization but I was against the BS medical pot dispensaries only because I hate BS. It was such a thinly discussed way of getting pot out to the heads as much, or more than getting it to real medical patients. It turned out just how I thought, all you needed to do was go to the right doctor and you would be given a card.


Can't sleep? Here smoke some weed. Stressed out with life? Here have a joint. You are having trouble sinking up Dark Side of the Moon with Wizard of Oz? Here have a double strength prescription.

The only way I can see to tighten that up is to run a few sting operations on doctors and yank their licences as a warning to the rest. I don't like the "Big Brother" aspect of that, but in light of rampant disregard of medical ethics, what else can you do?
 
It is funny, I support the legalization but I was against the BS medical pot dispensaries only because I hate BS. It was such a thinly discussed way of getting pot out to the heads as much, or more than getting it to real medical patients. It turned out just how I thought, all you needed to do was go to the right doctor and you would be given a card.


Can't sleep? Here smoke some weed. Stressed out with life? Here have a joint. You are having trouble sinking up Dark Side of the Moon with Wizard of Oz? Here have a double strength prescription.
Yep, when we allowed medical pot a few years ago, I never saw so many healthy looking sick people in my life. Most were young adults.
BTW, When syncing Dark Side of the Moon to the Wizard of Oz, at what point do you start the CD? I heard it was at the 2nd roar of the lion.
 
Huh? :huh:

The inside of the slab is but not the basement.

Location, Wet. Installations underground or in concrete
slabs or masonry in direct contact with the earth; in loca-
tions subject to saturation with water or other liquids, such
as vehicle washing areas; and in unprotected locations ex-
posed to weather.

If the basement walls and/or slab are in direct contact with the earth why is that not a wet location? Do we assume that the floor and/or walls only are wet, but somehow the space they enclose is not???
 
I don't dismiss your experience, but if the basement slab or masonry wall(s) are in contact with the earth it's a wet location by definition.
If I embed a raceway or cable in said floors or walls, I might agree. If i surface mount them on the interior side, not sure I agree.

I have seen and mounted thousands of NEMA 1 enclosures on basement walls from device boxes to loadcenters, if that were a wet location they couldn't be NEMA 1 enclosures. We couldn't run NM cable in furred out and finished basement walls either, that is done quite often.
 
If the basement walls and/or slab are in direct contact with the earth why is that not a wet location? Do we assume that the floor and/or walls only are wet, but somehow the space they enclose is not???

The interior side of floors and walls are not wet locations. Inside those concrete floors or masonry walls are wet locations.



Location, Wet. Installations underground or in concrete
slabs or masonry in direct contact with the earth;

If we read it as you suggest we need at least NEMA 3 boxes and UF cable in those basements.
 
The interior side of floors and walls are not wet locations. Inside those concrete floors or masonry walls are wet locations.





If we read it as you suggest we need at least NEMA 3 boxes and UF cable in those basements.

Hmmm, I see what you mean. But then we have this regarding damp locations:

Location, Damp. Locations protected from weather and
not subject to saturation with water or other liquids but
subject to moderate degrees of moisture.

Informational Note: Examples of such locations include
partially protected locations under canopies, marquees,
roofed open porches, and like locations, and interior loca-
tions subject to moderate degrees of moisture, such as some
basements
, some barns, and some cold-storage warehouses.​

This is what prompted my earlier comment about the possibility of condensation on the surface of installed electrical conduit/equipment.
 
... I am sure the private investors were very happy with the results of the recent election.
Which one? Up until now the Feds have followed a laissez-faire policy regarding both medical and recreational pot where the states allow it, but that could change under the new regime.
 
I am inspecting a grow facility and was wondering if the green house areas are considered damp locations?

I have worked in 4 fairly large cannabis facilities, and many more small ones and they were all very dry. I have never hesitated to use dry location equipment. Now I certainly haven't seen it all and there may be others that use a different approach and result in a more moisture - I don't know.
 
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