Happy Monday, some question today.

[Inspectorcliff]

Is a switch located by the entry to the attic and a light located by the equipment? If it is a drop ceiling in a commerical installation?
As in 210.70.(A) (3).

 

[infinity]

Is a switch located by the entry to the attic and a light located by the equipment?

Yes, that would comply. 210.70(A)(3) is only a requirement for dwelling units.

 

[Inspectorcliff]

Mr. Infinity

Mr. Infinity

Yes, that would comply. 210.70(A)(3) is only a requirement for dwelling units.

You are correct. How about 210.70 C?

 

[infinity]

You are correct. How about 210.70 C?

If you're referring to the question from your OP:

If it is a drop ceiling in a commercial installation?

A drop ceiling is not an attic or an underfloor space so IMO 210.70(C) doesn't apply above the hung ceiling.

 

[Inspectorcliff]

Very good, that is the question. I have some spelling out the definition of Webster’s to what an attic is, and others saying NO Structural ceiling, no attic. I personally agree with you, that if you can remove that many tiles and get to the job, a light and outlet wouldn't be required in my inspection, but it gets really cold here too, so what do I know? Thanks Rob!

 

[dcspector]

Suspended ceiling no as in grid with removable tiles..... Drop ceiling?..... I see as let's say hard ceiling with an access to equipment ie. drywall between floors, what are your thoughts? Then yes with (C)

 

[Inspectorcliff]

210.70(C) should of been could of been

210.70(C) should of been could of been

Is a switch located by the entry to the attic and a light located by the equipment? If it is a drop ceiling in a commerical installation?
As in 210.70.(A) (3).

Back to MOP, Which should have read 210.70.(C), a commerical building, drop ceiling, some sort of support above this d.c. with a electic furnace, boiler, water heater, etc. located up there. I say no, a light switch and an lighting outlet are not required because the area does not meet the requirements of 210.70 (C).

 

[Inspectorcliff]

Yep, I think that is true.

Yep, I think that is true.

Suspended ceiling no as in grid with removable tiles..... Drop ceiling?..... I see as let's say hard ceiling with an access to equipment ie. drywall between floors, what are your thoughts? Then yes with (C)

Yes, then, It would be a cut an dried attic, I think.

 

[cowboyjwc]

Back to MOP, Which should have read 210.70.(C), a commerical building, drop ceiling, some sort of support above this d.c. with a electic furnace, boiler, water heater, etc. located up there. I say no, a light switch and an lighting outlet are not required because the area does not meet the requirements of 210.70 (C).

I would agree with you.:smile:

 

[Inspectorcliff]

IAEI its off to work I go.

IAEI its off to work I go.

I would agree with you.:smile:

Thanks, I is feeling better all the time. I know, don't worry, you'll get over it... )

 

[dcspector]

Cliff,

What you were mentioning is a suspended ceiling...correct? Then No...I have a situation in a hi rise where they dropped the ceiling down from hard deck 2nd floor above with a framed drywall ceiling, 8' high area below the floor area above with access to service a large heat pump and a VAV........They have no passageway to and or work platform let alone a lighting outlet or switch control for the lighting outlet plus no receptacle outlet. Is this an attic or underfloor space according to 210.70(C)?

 

[cowboyjwc]

Thanks, I is feeling better all the time. I know, don't worry, you'll get over it... )

Sometime's you just look at something and go, huh? You know us inspectors have to stick together. The more of us that see it the same way the better.:smile:

 

[Inspectorcliff]

Yes sir, where they put a hard lid in, I definitely call that an attic, even if there were a number of floors above it. To me we are talking a storage area with serviceable equipment. Then the sw. by the entry, the lighting outlet by the equipment and a GFCI outlet all would come in to the picture. That is my opinion.