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wireman3736 said:
After reading through all the responses I have to say jeff43222 response would be the best way to describe how I feel about my business and being a sole proprietor. I'm going on 4 years as my own boss and I have to say I don't think I could go back to working for someone else.:cool:
Ironic, as I just went back to working for someone else.
 
jeff43222 said:
Ironic, as I just went back to working for someone else.

I shouldn't say I couldn't go back, I worked in a mfg plant and when I left to work for a contractor I said I would never go back to an industrial plant full time, 5 years later I went back as a plant electrician for a different company for 9 years, It's definitely harder work when your working for yourself. I had a gravy job for those 9 years but needed a change, as a matter of fact they still hire me for some jobs.
 
I hope so, too. I went from residential remodeling electrician work to electrical engineering -- designing power systems for industrial incinerators, wastewater treatment plants, and medical facilities. It's been a jarring change, but interesting nonetheless. Last week I got to see 1.5 weeks worth of an entire county's trash in a big pile and wander around switchgear operating at 2400V. I also got to visit a hospital power facility.

Now that I'm an engineer, the only tools I get to use are a flashlight, tape measure, and pen. My boss made it very clear that on most jobs the engineers are not insured to actually touch anything that might explode or otherwise ruin our day. The firm does plan on taking advantage of my electrician license on some jobs where the insurance will cover me to touch things.

I'm liking it so far, and I have a lot to learn. Fortunately the PEs I'm working under are very experienced and willing to help me get up to speed.
 
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Jeff,

That's a big change. Good luck with the new job, and keep us posted.

If I remember right, you have a BSEE? Did you take the FE exam?

John
 
It depends on your personality. Are you an entrepenour that enjoys the challenge of competitive bidding? Do you like being on call 24/7. Do you need the security of a weekly paycheck of a known amount? Can you handle the stress of knowing that it is possible for you to be served with a law suit at almost any time? Do you like interviewing, hiring, training, and firing employees? Do you find mountains of paperwork (taxes, insurance, supply house bills, truck payments, unemployment insurance, workman's comp insurance) to be a challenge or a burden? Some people thrive in that environment and others find it to be very burdensome. When you are in business for yourself, ther is no such thing as a paid vacation. If you aren't working, you are not making money. The rewards can be great, but the risks and stress are always there. I found it very difficult. You work like mad to come up with a competitive bid, then work like mad to get the job done, then stand in line and beg for your money, or worse yet have the bum declare bankruptcy and not get your money. Then when you ask your employees for a little extra effort to keep things going you are accused of being unreasonable. Three years was enough for me, I would never go into business again! I heard someone say that if he hit the lottery, he would open his own electrical contracting business and would not quit until he had lost every cent! That pretty much sums up my experience.
 
haskindm said:
I heard someone say that if he hit the lottery, he would open his own electrical contracting business and would not quit until he had lost every cent! That pretty much sums up my experience.

Oy.

Something else to mention, and this was my experience up until my last business, is are you a good judge of character?

My last business was a software company that was going to write freight tracking software for multi-modal transportation, freight forwarders, etc. My partner was the "industry experience and capital" partner and I was the "whiz-kid programmer" partner. I had 5 years programming experience at the time (not a lot, but back then programmers were even scarcer ...), but was still fairly young and wet behind my ears. We had meetings with the New Orleans port authority, I spent time working with his clerks, learning how freight and equipment are matched, learning about different types of equipment, insurance, bonds, weird laws, learning how the financial end of the business worked, and then delivered what was supposed to be the first piece of a multi-piece product. The next step was supposed to be advertising that product to other freight forwarders, but when I asked for a budget to take out ads, he balked. I'd acquired used equipment from a client to start working on the networking parts, and had even set up the network and gotten the two machines talking to each other. He'd balked at paying the invoice for that equipment and my client was demanding money or return of the equipment. With no money for additional hardware, no money for advertising, no anything -- except for him having a software product that he could use to run HIS business, things came to a sudden and screeching halt. I packed my things, grabbed my client's gear, and left my partner a note. I've work for someone else ever since.

I later found out that he'd started and bankrupted several other business, screwing the truckers he'd used for transportation out of the money he'd owed them. Suddenly certain things made sense, like, why his wife's name was used for certain financial transactions. Without the knowledge and experience, and the appropriate amount of Spidey Sense, I'd never have known what that meant. Now I do and I'm stupid enough to give the entire "self-employment" thing another go in a few years.
 
j_erickson said:
Jeff,

That's a big change. Good luck with the new job, and keep us posted.

If I remember right, you have a BSEE? Did you take the FE exam?

John
Yeah, I have a BSEE, and I took the FE exam in October. Still waiting for the result. That's an exam I do NOT want to have to take again.
 
tallgirl said:
Oy.

Something else to mention, and this was my experience up until my last business, is are you a good judge of character?

My last business was a software company that was going to write freight tracking software for multi-modal transportation, freight forwarders, etc. My partner was the ...
I think I have an idea what the problem was. Partnership is the worst possible form of business organization. You get all the liabilities and none of the advantages. The only partner I'd ever consider taking on is one I was married to.
 
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