help finding Square D tool:

[mdshunk]

No, it's not a can opener. It's a tool to punch out the little rectangular knockout in the metal mounting rail in older QO panels to accept the CTL type tandems (the kind with the "hook" instead of a clip). I used to have a half dozen of these things, but I went for one today, and can't fine ne'er a single one. Ticks me off. I drew a picture of it, close to actual size, in case anyone knows where I can get ahold of one. The yellow handle is plastic, and the blade is shiny metal.

 

[Buck Parrish]

Never seen one. Did you have a name for it?

 

[480sparky]

Only way Marc gets one is if I find two.

 

[electricalperson]

i emailed square d and asked them about it. hopefully they email me back soon.

ps your inbox is full mdshunk i tried to PM you

 

[mdshunk]

i emailed square d and asked them about it. hopefully they email me back soon.

ps your inbox is full mdshunk i tried to PM you

A couple years ago a guy of mine tried to get one from Square D, and I don't think he got a response. I hope they still make them, but they're not in the catalog. We'll be running into CTL type QO panels with metal guts for at least the rest of my life, I'm sure. Supply houses closed around here today.

 

[mdshunk]

Never seen one. Did you have a name for it?

Yes. I called it Henry, but it never spoke back.

Actually, I just called it "the tandem knockout thing".

 

[wireguru]

If i got these laser cut, would I be able to get rid of 50-100 of them?

 

[mdshunk]

Okay, I found the patent on the tool:

http://www.google.com/patents?id=aj...053&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=0_1#PPA1,M1

The actual tool produced has a yellow plastic handle. The patent only shows the metal portion of the tool, which goes partly into the handle.

 

[mdshunk]

If i got these laser cut, would I be able to get rid of 50-100 of them?

Doubt it. It's only to re-use certain of the old breakers as covered in this patent: http://www.google.com/patents?id=1Q...g&zoom=4&dq=rejection+tool+"square+d"#PPA2,M1

I might be the only soul on earth, other than 480, that wants one.

 

[electricalperson]

Doubt it. It's only to re-use certain of the old breakers as covered in this patent: http://www.google.com/patents?id=1Q...g&zoom=4&dq=rejection+tool+"square+d"#PPA2,M1

I might be the only soul on earth, other than 480, that wants one.

count me in on one of those too. theres a lot of old QO panels around here i work in

 

[wireguru]

i could make just a few, but theyre going to end up being like $25/ea

 

[wewirepgh]

Ask santa for one.

Ask santa for one.

Ask santa for one.

 

[electricalperson]

Ask santa for one.

dear santa

please send me, ken and marc a square d breaker rail removal thing for christmas. ill give you plenty of milk and cookies if you do. and the other guys will give you plenty of free electrical work for you and your elves

 

[quogueelectric]

I know my father has one somewhere I will see him tomorrow and see if he has two.

 

[wewirepgh]

HO HO HO have you been naughty or nice

HO HO HO have you been naughty or nice

HO HO HO have you been naughty or nice

dear santa

please send me, ken and marc a square d breaker rail removal thing for christmas. ill give you plenty of milk and cookies if you do. and the other guys will give you plenty of free electrical work for you and your elves

 

[peter d]

No, it's not a can opener. It's a tool to punch out the little rectangular knockout in the metal mounting rail in older QO panels to accept the CTL type tandems (the kind with the "hook" instead of a clip). I used to have a half dozen of these things, but I went for one today, and can't fine ne'er a single one.

I ran into this problem about a month ago. The trick was to "modify" aka trim the hook with dykes. I realize this is not the preferred way to go, but barring this special tool that cannot be found, I don't know any other way to make it work than the "on site engineered" way.

 

[wewirepgh]

No kidding

No kidding

These guys might have them they have everything.:smile:

The Motor Control Center
xxxx Windgap Ave
Pittsburgh, PA 15204
xxx-xxx-xxxx

Merry Christmas

 

[jim dungar]

I have one hanging on the wall in my office.

They went obsolete back in the middle 70's. After Square D pre-punched the slots at the factory the tool was no longer needed.

 

[mdshunk]

They went obsolete back in the middle 70's. After Square D pre-punched the slots at the factory the tool was no longer needed.

Funny, mine never went obsolete. I keep running into these panels from time to time.

 

[don_resqcapt19]

Why use a CTL tandem? In this area it is rare to see one...the suppliers mostly stock the non-CTL type.