help finding Square D tool:

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jim dungar

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down here, non-ctl types are 3 times the price of a ctl tandem. depending on how many you use, the tool could be worth it.
The tool is only used with load centers built before 1978 (probably even earlier), which is why they are hard to find.
 

Minuteman

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I believe I could use one of them tools. We are re-opening an apartment complex that was closed. It was built mid '70s. Some of the units have copper theftaand 2 were burnt and not repaired. All have QO panels without extra space. We only have to bring up to code the ones that have damage, but they are talking about adding washer/dryer stack units.
 

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Fab something close with a file & vice.
 

cadpoint

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well i just got an email back from square d and the guy said no such tool exists and it would create a code violation to modify electrical equipment. i think he is wrong

Now that tool was is in a packet from the manufacture, I'll agree with you. :roll:

Frankly I'm still trying to figure out what a CLT it... I'll assume a 2 pole breaker, I really don't know ...
 
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jim dungar

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well i just got an email back from square d and the guy said no such tool exists and it would create a code violation to modify electrical equipment. i think he is wrong
He is partly wrong.
The tool did exist once, it is no longer made. The tool was not used to field modify a panel, it was used to remove a factory stamping.

I have seen versions with the yellow rubber handle and ones that were metal only.

I do not know if there was ever a real part number for them, they may have been promotional give-away items only.
 

jim dungar

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Jim, you don't happen to have access to the original Square D catalog number for the tool, do you?
Marc,

The original part number was QO1JTH. By 1967 it was no longer shown in the Square D Digest, because at that time new panels shipped from the factory with punched slots instead of knockouts.
 

Riograndeelectric

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I have found these at Home depot. They are a bit pricey at $36.00 each. They come in a Square D plastic box. They say Square D on them have never looked closely at them to see if they are real Square D or counter fir Square D. also what about the surplus Breakers suppliers I would imagine they would have some of the old style twins with the rejection leg.

I have run acroos existing installation where the other Electrician or Ho did not understand what the rejection leg was or were the slots in the mounting rail where and installed the newer style twins in the top spaces in which the breakers were not set properly
 
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