Help the trim man out
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Re: Help the trim man out
I use an adjustable box, I leave it adjusted out about an inch so the cabinete installers will have to do a proper cut in, then I adjust the box flush and install the receptacle. It works well for cabinetes and book shelves. The extra cost of the box is covered by time saved.
I use an adjustable box, I leave it adjusted out about an inch so the cabinete installers will have to do a proper cut in, then I adjust the box flush and install the receptacle. It works well for cabinetes and book shelves. The extra cost of the box is covered by time saved.
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Re: Help the trim man out
Some fellas use the single-pole switch to tie together power-leads (strip the two hots, hook one, leaving the switchleg untouched). Two problems with that: the trimmer will think it's a 3-way. Or will know it's not but waste time being sure of it. And the stuff is painted and textured so much sometimes, it's tricky seeing what's stripped and straight.
Unless it's me, and I'll just go look for a piece of wire to avoid using the switch as a wire-nut.
Tired: Forgot the second reason. Night all!
[ January 21, 2006, 02:37 AM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
No, thanks. I'd clip off your hooks. Paint and texture.
Some fellas use the single-pole switch to tie together power-leads (strip the two hots, hook one, leaving the switchleg untouched). Two problems with that: the trimmer will think it's a 3-way. Or will know it's not but waste time being sure of it. And the stuff is painted and textured so much sometimes, it's tricky seeing what's stripped and straight.
Unless it's me, and I'll just go look for a piece of wire to avoid using the switch as a wire-nut.
Tired: Forgot the second reason. Night all!
[ January 21, 2006, 02:37 AM: Message edited by: georgestolz ]
Re: Help the trim man out
I like to make every connection on rough in and leave just enough pig tails as will go on the device. I don't strip the wires because of the paint issue. I wrap groups of wires together then roll them up in the box in the space that the eventual device will occupy.
For a three way switch, the point wire is wrapped arround the other two hots and the ground and a wirenut is screwed on the end.
I also use the wire nuts on the line side hot and neutral for GFCI recs. (even when the gfi is end of line)
For fan/lights the fan is always the black wire.
For three ways, the point is always one of the black wires. If needed I add a black pig tail to another color to change the circuit conductor color to black, during rough. On trim I can remove the extra pig tail, but I am sure which one I had intended to be the point.
The less thinking on trimm as possible is my motto.
I like to make every connection on rough in and leave just enough pig tails as will go on the device. I don't strip the wires because of the paint issue. I wrap groups of wires together then roll them up in the box in the space that the eventual device will occupy.
For a three way switch, the point wire is wrapped arround the other two hots and the ground and a wirenut is screwed on the end.
I also use the wire nuts on the line side hot and neutral for GFCI recs. (even when the gfi is end of line)
For fan/lights the fan is always the black wire.
For three ways, the point is always one of the black wires. If needed I add a black pig tail to another color to change the circuit conductor color to black, during rough. On trim I can remove the extra pig tail, but I am sure which one I had intended to be the point.
The less thinking on trimm as possible is my motto.
Re: Help the trim man out
JMO.
[ January 21, 2006, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
Same here, it is not considered roughed-in until all this happens, and I see how a rough can go so fast, same with trim some will stab the wires into the receptacles and switches, I prefer the loops, takes longer but sure saves on warranty work. I also don't see where if the sheath is not removed on the romex you could stuff all the cables into say a 4 gang box and keep them from getting damaged from the sheetrockers and their roto zips
JMO.[ January 21, 2006, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: Jhr ]
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