Hole hogs
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peter d
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- New England
Oh, well that's different. What brand is it?
curt swartz
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- San Jose, CA
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- Electrical Contractor
Is the bare EGC copper or aluminum?
We switched to the M18 cordless Hole Hawgs about 2 years ago. They perform as well as the corded version. Not having to roll out cords and fight the other trades for open receptacles is a huge plus. The quick change chuck is awesome too.
SceneryDriver
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- NJ
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- Electrical and Automation Designer
I'm a fan of MC, and actually don't like AC. In fact, when I'm in a position to spec or order for a job that needs MC, I'll try to order stranded MC. It's easier to work with, and lands in our panel's terminal blocks better / more securely. I design and work with a lot of machinery that moves too, so stranded is usually a must to resist vibration and fatigue breaks.
SceneryDriver
ron
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Just repeating my previous post in case it was missed, but .....
Some of the MC-Lite versions are pretty similar to AC cables though.
http://www.afcweb.com/mc-metal-clad-cables/mci-a-type-mc-metal-clad-cables/mc-quik-armored-cable/
There is no insulated grounding conductor. Just the armor in conjunction with an aluminum bond wire
http://www.afcweb.com/mc-metal-clad-cables/mci-a-type-mc-metal-clad-cables/mc-quik-armored-cable/
There is no insulated grounding conductor. Just the armor in conjunction with an aluminum bond wire
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
For 100 feet? Seems a little low for 250 feet, but I'm comparing to MC with three insulated copper conductors inside, one less copper conductor and maybe that is reasonable price.
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I was going to suggest it may be health care facility cable. Health care facilities the wiring method for branch circuits in patient care areas must be a qualifying EGC as well as contain an insulated EGC inside, AC cable is a qualifying EGC but AC cable without a green conductor does not meet requirements for these health care circuits.
At one time all the HCF cable was AC cable, but that changed when they came out with MC-AP or other similar designs.
electrofelon
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- Cherry Valley NY, Seattle, WA
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- Electrician
This is the cable I guess it is MC
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Wierd....so what is the difference between that and ac?
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
That's what we usually call AC, formerly BX.This is the cable I guess it is MC
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kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
That is MC-AP a Southwire product name, though I believe others do have similar product.
To most of us there is no real difference between this and AC cable. Differences are in somewhat minor details. Both can be steel or aluminum sheathed. AFAIK if it has paper filler material inside the sheath it will be AC cable. MC-AP does have larger bonding wire, I don't know why, both are suitable for use in conjunction with the cable sheath for use as an EGC.
To most of us there is no real difference between this and AC cable. Differences are in somewhat minor details. Both can be steel or aluminum sheathed. AFAIK if it has paper filler material inside the sheath it will be AC cable. MC-AP does have larger bonding wire, I don't know why, both are suitable for use in conjunction with the cable sheath for use as an EGC.
I love the smell of fresh sawdust on a Sunday morning and this is the best hole hog I've ever used Had it about 10 years anybody else use it or have one
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Mines made in China for Milwaukee. Probably comes off the same manufacturing line as Default.
mtfallsmikey
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I have a Hole Hawg that my dad bought for his business in 1972, he always told me that was my high school graduation present. Still works, replaced a few switches/cords, it is a beast.
- Location
- Bremerton, Washington
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- Master Electrician
Try MC AP. No grounds to make up, support is 6 ft vs 4.5 ft, and no red heads needed
Note not requiring redheads on MC is a good bar bet
Save 30% time on install over regular MC.
MC AP is made by Southwire
AC is made by AFC.
AFC used to have the hospital marked sewed up but now you can get MC AP hospital grade
LarryFine
Master Electrician Electric Contractor Richmond VA
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- Henrico County, VA
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- Electrical Contractor
I can't remember the last time I used one on MC. I always use them on any flex I put wire in.
bullheimer
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- WA
not getting how you can not use an anti-short bushing with that stuff.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
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- EC
I don't get why it is really necessary with AC cable, if terminated into pretty much any listed fitting out there I don't see the edges of the sheath being much of a problem for the conductors.
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