Home Inspections

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stamcon

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The bottom of the "ground bar" and the "neutral bar" have a black screw and some sort of clip attached to them. Is this just a retainer clip or is this an interconnect between the bars? One of the 2P-30s has 2 black wires going to one pole. There is a red/black/blue wire combination exiting the bottom of the panel. If you follow the blue wire up the right side of the panel, it's spliced to a white wire that doesn't go to a bar, just up to the top of the panel(?).
 

hurk27

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European equipment used a blue wire as the neutral. but why is there a # 12 in the two pole 30 on the right? I think it's running to the north water heater. The north water heater if you look closely one leg goes up and the other goes down? Must be a floor heating or for driveway heat but they still must be ran together. not leaving the cabinet through different KO's.
 

noxx

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90% of the violations shown could be cleaned up in one afternoon by an apprentice with a bag full of staples. I'm sure there's more than meets the eye, but several of these photo's, specifically the ones involving ductwork are inconclusive at best....is the wire really entering the plenum, ducking behind it, entering a fabricated sheet metal cover that conceals a blower, etc.

One of those flying splices is definitely something someone should get whupped for..the other, well I don't know what it is but I don't see how it could be energized, as both conductors on the NM are nutted together.

Too close to the floor violation...I don't know there's not a nail-plate in there. The photo titled "multiple violations" I count two, securing, and grounding the box.

I'm not suggesting this installation is kosher, and certainly if this is what you see offhand you have to wonder what else is in there...but the linked photo's, their titles, and the amounts quoted seem pretty, well, reactionary.

My experience with "home inspectors" has been limited to guys who write up cracked cover plates but fail to notice multi-wire branches landed to the same phase, perhaps that colors my opinion.
 

jxofaltrds

Inspector Mike®
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Mike P. Columbus Ohio
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ESI, PI, RBO
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Originally posted by mclain:
<snip> I worry that any negative comment will any up being used as a promotion of this private building inspection company. I don't think he posted this looking for advice on how to correct the installation. It looks like he was looking for expressions of shock and dismay.
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McClain gets the foresight award.

I asked a lot of questions upfront and got no answers. Without the answers it's premature to offer advice on this one. The OP did not give us much to chew on, and therefore did not get much in return.

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../Wayne C.


Yes, this is it shock and dismay. AND upset that this was allowed to happen to a homeowner. :)
ESI :D
 

big john

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Portland, ME
Re: Home Inspections

Originally posted by jxofaltrds:
PS Can I take this post and show it to her attornies?
Brother, if you're an EC then you should have all the credentials necessary to provide tesimoney in court without refering to BBS respondents who's opinions were based soley on what seemed to be strongly biased photos.

I don't know what the purpose of this thread was, but I don't trust it for my life.

-John

[ September 25, 2003, 06:32 AM: Message edited by: big john ]
 

jxofaltrds

Inspector Mike®
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ESI, PI, RBO
Re: Home Inspections

John

Not using this for court. Just to show her attornies how outrageous this installation is. They think this is just a small thing.

The pictures where provided for everyone's entertainment.

What I am unable to post are the during construction pictures (she took) that show junction boxes "hidden" in the wall and the service cable in 4" corr. pipe in the crawl under about 2" of gravel.

Mike P.
 
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