I am not sure I agree based on 680.22(C)So would anyone agree with me that if your state is still on the 2005 code it would b permissable to place a disconnect within the 5' area of the spa tub.
680.22(C)Switching Devices. Switching devices shall be located at least 1.5 m (5 ft) horizontally from the inside walls of a pool unless separated from the pool by a solid fence, wall, or other permanent barrier. Alternatively, a switch that is listed as being acceptable for use within 1.5 m (5 ft) shall be permitted.
Sierrasparky;1240782 Besides they let a receptacle located inside the 5 ' foot rule as an exception. So you can eletrocute yourself if your house is too close.[/QUOTE said:yea I saw that also. I don't know why they did not allow any outlet if they cannot meet the 5 foot rule. I suppose they are worrried that someone will use an extension cord from a non GFCI outlet
Well, IMO a disconnect is a switching device because it switches the power off and on. They are also called disconnect switches.I don't know that a switching device would be considered a Disconnect.
I thought that we are not allowed to pull subsections from other portions of the code just to create a violation.Well, IMO a disconnect is a switching device because it switches the power off and on. They are also called disconnect switches.
The NEC does not want electricity close to the tub where someone can touch it and still be touching water. Ibelieve that is why they want electrical 5' or more.
The 2008 code rewrite has made it clear.
If you are talking about carflex (liquidtite flexible non metallic conduit) then yes it can be used in lengths not over 6' but IMO the disco. must be 5' from the inside wall of the tub unless there is a permanent barrier.can you run nm sealtight to hot tub across top of slab 4feet
I thought that we are not allowed to pull subsections from other portions of the code just to create a violation.
THe section that you cite is from a sub Section 680.22 "(B) (5) on cord and plug connected luminaires"
I believe your are incorrect. The section I quoted is from 680.22 (C) in the 2005 which falls under area lighting, receptacles & equipment.
Okay so you are not happy with a disco being called a switch but you are looking for ways to justify the installation within 5'. That's fine and your right to do so and perhaps the code changed the wording to clarify because others may have made your argument. It is clear the intent is to no have the disco within 5'.Yes I saw that but I have a problem with calling a pull-out disconnect a Switching device. Pull-out are not used as a switch. A general safety switch used as a disco maybe.
If the language was correct for what is interpeted here by you then why did the code group feel necessary to clarify it differently for the third time in 3 code cycles.
Yes I saw that but I have a problem with calling a pull-out disconnect a Switching device. Pull-out are not used as a switch. A general safety switch used as a disco maybe.
sparky you really are fishing. First off this application is not over 600 volts but you want to use it...... Okay I will play, the first sentence states a device designed to close, open, or both, one or more electrical circuits..... So a disco does not fit this defintion????
Logically why would the NEC allow a disconnect and not, say, a snap switch. It is illogically and I still think you are fishing. :grin: