Hot tub disconnect

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andinator

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I need a code article!! Where in 680 does it say I have to have a disconnect for my two pole 40A hot tub by the hottub??? I have a two pole 40A GFCI breaker in the panel...is this sufficient??? The house is older, if there is an article, what year was it added??? I see all the other rules about recp. outlets, I'm just not seeing the disconnect.

You guys rock

Edit to add: It is outside on the deck
 
If you look at 680.42 it says " shall comply with the provisions of Parts I and Parts II of this article. Going to 680.12 last sentence says "readily accessible and within sight from its equipment.
 
andinator said:
I need a code article!! Where in 680 does it say I have to have a disconnect for my two pole 40A hot tub by the hottub???
You guys rock

Edit to add: It is outside on the deck


Try 680.12 2005 Nec. I think (but not certain) it was in 2005 it was added.

NEC said:
680.12 Maintenance Disconnecting Means. One or more means to disconnect all ungrounded conductors shall be provided for all utilization equipment other than lighting. Each means shall be readily accessible and within SIGHT from its equipment.
 
andinator said:
I have a two pole 40A GFCI breaker in the panel...I'm just not seeing the disconnect.

Edit to add: It is outside on the deck

The disconnect could be a cord and plug.
680.42(A)2
(2) Cord-and-Plug Connections Cord-and-plug connections with a cord not longer than 4.6 m (15 ft) shall be permitted where protected by a ground-fault circuit interrupter.
 
russ said:
You don't need one for a single family dwelling 680.41

41 is saying you don't need an emergency shut off switch. 680.12 says you need a disconnecting means for the equipment.
 
Ruwired take a peek at this ,.. question 9 inparticular
http://www.mikeholt.com/newsletters.php?action=display&letterID=391
Q8. What are the disconnect requirements for outdoor spas or hot tubs?

A8. A maintenance disconnecting means is required for an outdoor spa or hot tub. The maintenance disconnecting means must be readily accessible and located within sight from the spa or hot tub [680.12], but not less than 5 ft horizontally from the inside walls of the spa or hot tub unless separated by a solid fence, wall, or other permanent barrier [680.22(C)].
In other than a single-family dwelling, a clearly labeled emergency spa or hot tub water recirculation and jet system shutoff must be supplied. The emergency shutoff must be readily accessible to the users and located not less than 5 ft away, but adjacent to and within sight of the spa or hot tub. [680.41]. Either the maintenance disconnecting means required by 680.12 or a pushbutton that controls a relay located in accordance with this section can be used to meet the emergency shutoff requirement.
The purpose of the emergency shutoff is to protect users. Deaths and injuries have occurred in less than 3 ft of water because individuals became stuck to the water intake opening.

Q9. What are the GFCI requirements for outdoor spas or hot tubs?

A9. GFCI protection is required for cords 15 ft or less in length used for cord and plug connection of outdoor spas and hot tubs [680.42(A)(2)]. Also, all receptacles rated 15 or 20A, 125V through 250V supplying cord-and-plug connected pump motors for a permanently installed outdoor spa, or outdoor hot tub must be GFCI protected [680.22(A)(5)].
 
The commentary following 680.41 supports russ' comments:

The provisions of 680.41 require a local disconnecting device for spas and hot tubs that is capable of being used in an emergency. This requirement was added to address entrapment hazards associated with spas and hot tubs. The definitive publication on this issue, Guideline for Entrapment Hazards: Making Pools and Spas Safer (Pub. No. 363), is available from the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, Washington, DC 20207.
The emergency shutoff switch must be installed within sight of and at least 5 ft from the spa or hot tub and must be clearly labeled ?Emergency Shutoff.? See Exhibit 680.17 for an illustration of the switch location. The shutoff switch can be either a line-operated device or a remote-control circuit that causes the pump circuit to open. This requirement does not apply to one-family dwellings.


On the other hand....a friend of the family was required to put a disco within sight at their SFH for their hot tub.

:-?
 
celtic said:
The commentary following 680.41 supports russ' comments:




On the other hand....a friend of the family was required to put a disco within sight at their SFH for their hot tub.

:-?

Celtic, did you read the last sentenance of that note.


This requirement does not apply to one-family dwellings.
 
stickboy1375 said:
And every manufacture of hard wired units I've seen requires it... :D

And as read 680.22(B) 2008 we will need GFCI on pool pumps whether they are cord and plug or direct connected.
 
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