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peter d said:
Whether or not the manufacturers spec of all #6 conductors is part of the listing and labeling of the equipment is unknown, and therefore unknown as to whether its enforceable code or not.
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*What Would Journeymen Do? :grin:
 
LawnGuyLandSparky said:
Yes, it's simple unbalanced load theory. Who cares what the instructions say?
#6 is no better than #10 when the imbalance is a few amps. Even if taken to task IFO a lawyer or prosecutor, they have to prove your guilt, you don't prove your innocence. How are they going to prove your #10 caused an electrical failure, the instruction booklet isn't scientific evidence. It's manufacturer's opinion.
Is this what the instructions say?????????? Do you know what the instructions say? Or is this just your opinion?? Why not throw this on the table instead of guessing?
 
romeo said:
IMO not a good idea. Was the job inspected, if so and it passed then the inspector is wrong also.

You must have already saved them a lot of money on labor, so why not do it as required by the manufacture and protect you and them.
i recently rewired a spa for a customer, the contractor did not post a permit, the customer forced contractor to permit which ended up failing. cunductors were all #8, gutter was not bonded. i was the hero and he got a complaint with the ccb and lost his account with the spa retailer. oh and the contractor refunded all of "cash transaction" of $1300.00.
 
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csparkrun said:
i recently rewired a spa for a customer, the contractor did not post a permit, the customer forced contractor to permit which ended up failing. cunductors were all #8, gutter was not bonded. i was the hero and he got a complaint with the ccb and lost his account with the spa retailer. oh and the contractor refunded all of "cash transaction" of $1300.00.
Jeopardy question: Who is someone this contractor will never call? ;)
 
I think the reason the manufactures require the #6 on all conductors is that they know alot of electricians will downsize the neutral and ground, if they have any manufactures defects, they can back out of thier warrenty because it was not installed by thier instructions.
 
ultramegabob said:
I think the reason the manufactures require the #6 on all conductors is that they know alot of electricians will downsize the neutral and ground, if they have any manufactures defects, they can back out of thier warrenty because it was not installed by thier instructions.

Exactly,and also back out on any lawsuits that might come up.Just how much will you save to risk this ? If inspector fails this (and he should) how much will it cost you to rewire ?What will your insurance company do for you if tub burns up and warranty got void.

Yes in most cases nothing will happen but check out the price tag on some of them motors and control boards.This is not a good place to cut corners.
 
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