How did they miss that?

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ivsenroute

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What do you see?

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Top is feeding the range.

Bottom is feeding the 4500 watt HWH.

top one is OK

bottom one is a big problem

Someone just got mixed up when they were working in the panel.

Now a question:

When would it be ok inside a residential structure to use 10awg NM cable fed from a 50amp breaker?
 
ivsenroute said:
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When would it be ok inside a residential structure to use 10awg NM cable fed from a 50amp breaker?
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For an AC condenser unit. In fact, #10 on a 50 amp breaker might be very common for that application.
 
ivsenroute said:
When would it be ok inside a residential structure to use 10awg NM cable fed from a 50amp breaker?
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Certain motor loads such as the air conditioning condensing unit or a large air compressor.
 
peter d said:
Did anyone mention an air conditioner condensor yet?
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Not sure, but an air conditioning condensing unit would be one popular one.

I really didn't think that the black-red combination would be feeding the water heater. I'd have guessed a clothes dryer or a wall oven before I guessed a water heater.
 
I gotta ask about the lower termination on the top breaker. To my old eyes, it looks like the aluminum is completely severed from the terminal. It could be a shadow, or a small piece of black tape, but I doubt it.

My guess it's more like some strands were cut off.

I also see some NM entering the panel with no sheath showing.
 
480sparky said:
I gotta ask about the lower termination on the top breaker. To my old eyes, it looks like the aluminum is completely severed from the terminal. It could be a shadow, or a small piece of black tape, but I doubt it.

My guess it's more like some strands were cut off.
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Looks like shadow from the camera flash being higher than the lens.
 
mdshunk said:
I really didn't think that the black-red combination would be feeding the water heater. I'd have guessed a clothes dryer or a wall oven before I guessed a water heater.
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I've seen some guys run 3 conductor to A/C units for some reason, more than likely because it's all they had on the truck.
 
480sparky said:
I gotta ask about the lower termination on the top breaker. To my old eyes, it looks like the aluminum is completely severed from the terminal. It could be a shadow, or a small piece of black tape, but I doubt it.
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That's not aluminum. Judging from the old insulation it's more likely tinned copper due to the rubber insulation.
 
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