How much wire sheath should be left on RX when connectin

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An inspector failed our job today because he said that the code required no more than 1/4" of wire sheath entering the enclosure (panel). Since we moved a number of branch circuits out of the main panel into a generator load panel, we left about 3/4" to 1" of sheath to provide a means to label the moved circuits. He said this was not allowed. I know 312 and 314 both reference 'not less than 1/4" of sheath, but cannot find where it says "not more than" (he couldn't find the article either). Anyone know where the code defines the length of sheath allowed?

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He's wrong. The 1/4" is a minimum, not a maximum.
 
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Originally posted by LarryFine:
He's wrong. The 1/4" is a minimum, not a maximum.
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Yes, I think he is too. As I recall I don't remember any article in the code that defines how long the sheath can be once the wire enters an enclousure, but just thought someone out there might know of where this is defined if it is.
 
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Hey man we had an inspector like that and she failed us, so i handed her my code book and said show me, and she looked through it trying to find it, and she found the minimum of 1/4 as larry stated, and said that was it, i called her bluff and said that she was wrong, and finally got her to pass the job.! Try contesting it
 
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Originally posted by Shockedby277v:
Question #47

An electrical inspector is also known as a _________ .


:)
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Answer #47 (a.) Authority Having Jurisdiction
(Who is human, and capable of making mistakes, just like the rest of us)

I wanted to say (b.) Necessary Evil :D

[ February 03, 2006, 08:07 AM: Message edited by: Minuteman ]
 
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Yup! "Human being" It is unfortunate that a lot of jurisdictions just don't push education. That particular Inspector will figure it out over the years by being humbled and educated. :cool:
 
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Originally posted by Shockedby277v:
Question #47

An electrical inspector is also known as a _________ .


:)
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Along with the other answers; Teacher, Friend, Ally might also fit.

Roger
 
Re: How much wire sheath should be left on RX when connectin

Thank you all for those kind words. :) When I was in the field, I figured that an inspector was someone who couldn't make it in the trade. Now I am one :D . As a side note, I am not the AHJ, just an inspector. Ron
 
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Does anyone out there know how to get an inspectors license in WV?

My boss and I want to get ours so we could legally inspect homes for wiring, and we were wondering how to get the licenses, and how much they cost?

lol about the post about pain in the @$$

j/k yall
 
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Ron,

Contrary to many misconceptions, the inspector is not the AHJ. The AHJ are those that have the authority to adopt the code and specify the rules. The inspector is hired to enforce them and just as any police officer, referee, or other human being, can and will make mistakes or have a different view or interpretation of the code. When this happens the AHJ is called on to make the final ruling.

This is no different than other situations in society. The peace officers are not the authorities having jurisdiction, they only enforce the laws the government adopts. The judicial system makes the final ruling when a disagreement or difference of interpretation is evident.

Bob
 
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Back to the original question. To fail a job for this is simply pathetic. It brings into question the inspectors credibility. This is first month apprentice stuff.
 
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WVSparky. "You don't buy it". How about 18 years in the trade and approx. 20 hours of certification exams (plus the personal study hours) over 200 ceu hours. Good Inspectors are fair, knowledgeable and carry themselves well with others as a professional Electrician would.
 
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Good Inspectors are fair, knowledgeable and carry themselves well with others as a professional Electrician would
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Well said triphase I agree. For me it was 15 years as a licensed electrician plus passing the required state tests.

Chris
 
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We all make mistakes, but...........does the word discretion come to mind? Even if this was on the books, why would anyone in their right mind enforce something that is total nonsense???
 
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To the first post:

Did you reference this to him yet and did he thank you?

Yes, some inspectors do say thank you. :D

You should post up with the followup. :cool:
 
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