How should I handle this?

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Vinniem

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Was asked by a contractor friend of mine to look at some electrical work that was done by an electrician for one of his customers.

Apparently this person did this work(panel change) without a permit, the homeowner assuming they took one out.

The homeowner now wants to make everything legit and wants me to check over the work and stamp a permit out.

Is it just a matter of checking the work or are other things involved.

I know once I seal it it becomes mine. I just want to hear your expert opinions.

Thanks
 
Vinniem said:
Was asked by a contractor friend of mine to look at some electrical work that was done by an electrician for one of his customers.

Apparently this person did this work(panel change) without a permit, the homeowner assuming they took one out.

The homeowner now wants to make everything legit and wants me to check over the work and stamp a permit out.

Is it just a matter of checking the work or are other things involved.

I know once I seal it it becomes mine. I just want to hear your expert opinions.

Thanks
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Does "Adding and abating an unlicensed contractor mean anything to you??? $$$$$
 
If the panel was changed out, maybe a permit wasn't needed since it was considered a repair.

A new service, at least in my area, not only requires a permit, but other things need to be done to the house as well (2 SABCs, ground kithcen & bath circuits, etc.) So see if what was done would invoke any rules such as that.

As for a panel swap out, it's pretty easy to check out. All your work is at the panel. If it's sloppy, straighted it out. Torque all the connections. Make sure there aren't any MWBCs that got changed so both circuits are on the same phase or leg (hence overloading the neutral). Also check for raceway & cable supports.

In short, assure yourself that it all meets not only NEC and local standards, but your standards as well. If your name is on the permit, it's your handiwork as far as the fire marshal and insurance companies are concerned.

Acquire the permit, do the work, and charge accordingly.
 
A panel swap is considered a repair here, as 480 has said. The only exception is for an increase in capacity. Call your ahj and see if that applies to your area.
 
Cavie said:
Does "Adding and abating an unlicensed contractor mean anything to you??? $$$$$
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Doesn't mean a thing in NJ.
Statutes and Regulations

Vinniem said:
My app. with the homeowner isn't until Monday.

I don't know if the person was licensed or not.
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See if the HO will reveal the guys name and check him out:
Licensee Directory

Minuteman said:
A panel swap is considered a repair here, as 480 has said. The only exception is for an increase in capacity. Call your ahj and see if that applies to your area.
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Ordinary Maintenance and Minor Work details what is allowed w/o a permit.

IMHO, a panel swap REQUIRES a permit.
 
I would not touch it. You may bite off more than you want to chew. But if you do meet with the HO's and you do find that this work was done by an unlicensed person with out pulling a permit ( if needed in your area ). Do us all a favor and explain the down side of having this work done by a unlicensed person. More than likely no insurance, no warranty and illegal.
 
ivsenroute said:
I agree with this statement
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Me too.

I would approach it like it was a new contact.....someone wanting to get a evaluation and corrections made to a existing system.

Spell out exactly what you intend to do, and note any additional work that needs to be done to bring it up to code.

If the customer wants to spend the money....get the permit and do the work.
If not....walk away.

Keep it legit and you won't get bit....my new motto.:)

steve
 
steelersman said:
you meant abetting not abating.
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I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. :rolleyes:
Aside from that, you are correct.
 
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Cavie said:
I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. :rolleyes:
Aside from that, you are correct.
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but I didn't hear anything. I haven't figured out how to make these threads audible from my speakers so that I don't have to read. :)
 
steelersman said:
I haven't figured out how to make these threads audible from my speakers so that I don't have to read. :)
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Cavie said:
I know you believe that you understand what you think I said but I'm sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant. :rolleyes:
Aside from that, you are correct.
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