I hate these switches

[TwoBlocked]

How do I do it without hopping on 1 foot :-(

Try this:

1. With the right hand, position the operating handle firmly in the upper, ON position (That's the trick I remember).
2. With the left hand, jam a small screwdriver firmly into the "defeat" slot, and leave it there (Another trick I remember).
3. With the left hand, lift the latch at the top left.
4. With the right hand, still on the operating handle, swing the door open.

If that doesn't work, find one that you can can turn OFF, open it and read the operating instruction inside, like the label on the front says. Then practice, practice, practice with the door open and you can see how the darn thing works (The final trick I remember).

Maybe someone has one they can post the operating instruction from. Couldn't find it on the internet.

 

[Tainted]

Try this:

1. With the right hand, position the operating handle firmly in the upper, ON position (That's the trick I remember).
2. With the left hand, jam a small screwdriver firmly into the "defeat" slot, and leave it there (Another trick I remember).
3. With the left hand, lift the latch at the top left.
4. With the right hand, still on the operating handle, swing the door open.

If that doesn't work, find one that you can can turn OFF, open it and read the operating instruction inside, like the label on the front says. Then practice, practice, practice with the door open and you can see how the darn thing works (The final trick I remember).

Maybe someone has one they can post the operating instruction from. Couldn't find it on the internet.

I'll try it. So the screw driver will stay there without falling off? Turning off anything is not an option. If I do manage to open it, I'm gonna study how it works and keep practicing

 

[TwoBlocked]

I'll try it. So the screw driver will stay there without falling off? Turning off anything is not an option. If I do manage to open it, I'm gonna study how it works and keep practicing

Hope it works, that's how I remember. Ya know, last place I worked had those. Let me give a guy a ring.

 

[Tainted]

Hope it works, that's how I remember. Ya know, last place I worked had those. Let me give a guy a ring.

I'll post back here on Tuesday night and let you guys know if I succeed. Gonna do a all out survey of the electrical room, need existing oneline and existing floor plan layout

 

[LarryFine]

If that doesn't work, find one that you can can turn OFF, open it and read the operating instruction inside, like the label on the front says.

That reminds me of my clothes dryer. There are instructions printed on the inside of the door.

1. Insert clothes, close door.

Okay. Now what?

 

[TwoBlocked]

Hey, found an image of the inside of a door:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dcc-data-extract/new-delta/asset/Compas/daily/Compas/Switches/783643103887_R01_C03.jpg?110123

After blowing it up, I think it says:

"To void interlock

1. Insert screwdriver blade into slot "A" in cover.
Press down then rotate handle beyond "ON" position.
The cover can now be opened by releasing cover latch.

2. To reclose cover with switch in "ON" position, be sure handle is in voidable position
(????? 1.) then close the cover and return handle to the "ON" position."

That sounds right, my buddy thinks so, too.

 

[TwoBlocked]

Try this:

1. With the right hand, position the operating handle firmly in the upper, ON position (That's the trick I remember).
2. With the left hand, jam a small screwdriver firmly into the "defeat" slot, and leave it there (Another trick I remember).
3. With the left hand, lift the latch at the top left.
4. With the right hand, still on the operating handle, swing the door open.

If that doesn't work, find one that you can can turn OFF, open it and read the operating instruction inside, like the label on the front says. Then practice, practice, practice with the door open and you can see how the darn thing works (The final trick I remember).

Maybe someone has one they can post the operating instruction from. Couldn't find it on the internet.

Sorry, Folks. The above is incorrect. Please see previous post.

 

[Tainted]

Hey, found an image of the inside of a door:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/dcc-data-extract/new-delta/asset/Compas/daily/Compas/Switches/783643103887_R01_C03.jpg?110123

After blowing it up, I think it says:

"To void interlock

1. Insert screwdriver blade into slot "A" in cover.
Press down then rotate handle beyond "ON" position.
The cover can now be opened by releasing cover latch.

2. To reclose cover with switch in "ON" position, be sure handle is in voidable position
(????? 1.) then close the cover and return handle to the "ON" position."

That sounds right, my buddy thinks so, too.

Wow thanks! I think my mistake probably was that I didn't press down then rotate the handle beyond the ON position.

But I just noticed this might be for the double 60A switches. The larger switches might have a different procedure?. Notice it doesn't have a latch like the larger switch

 

[TwoBlocked]

I think they work the same. At least that would be the first thing to try. Good Luck!

 

[ggunn]

That reminds me of my clothes dryer. There are instructions printed on the inside of the door.

1. Insert clothes, close door.

Okay. Now what?

In a related story...

When I was in a training program many years ago I shared an apartment with a couple of other guys, one of whom was a Peruvian native. He had never been in the US before, but he had an excellent command of English. He was very independent minded and wanted very much to be able to fend for himself, so one evening he decided to heat up a frozen dinner for himself with no help from anyone.

He went into the kitchen to start his meal heating in the oven, and he came back out to the living room to wait for it to be ready, but before long smoke started coming out of the kitchen. He had read the instructions on the box and followed them exactly; he preheated the oven to precisely the proscribed temperature and set a timer for the exact heating time, so what went wrong?

Nowhere in the instructions did it say to take it out of the box.

 

[LarryFine]

Like a VCR with the instruction manual on a video tape.

 

[Jraef]

You have to insert a thin blade in on an angle and then try using a prying action to move the internal interlock tab against the spring. While doing so you can jiggle the handle and pull. You'll also need to depress the door lock on the upper left.

... while standing on one foot, facing the East, nodding your head and chanting "Ow-Tanas-Siam" over and over.

 

[LarryFine]

I remember it being "owa tagu siam."

 

[GoldDigger]

I remember it being "owa tagu siam."

You will find both if you Google either one. The more common spelling (which does not telegraph the joke quite as much as Jraef's) is
Owa-Tana-Siam
Then there is
"Owa tana siam, Owa tana siam, I yamut wit, owa taphoo lamai, owa taphoo lamai, owa tana siam, owa tanit (to the tune of God save the queen)

 

[Fred B]

If I cause any unplanned outages, I will admit fault and it's on me.

If they cannot allow for a safe temporary outage to evaluate the system, then the cost of a catastrophic unintentional outage the cost can be much higher than I would want to assume. The cost would likely far exceed just the equipment, and worst case your life.

 

[TwoBlocked]

Since this is a hinged, and not a bolted cover, and since this is just observing, and not interacting, I think wearing voltage rated gloves is all that is required to satisfy 70E. But I could be wrong. I hate dragging that darn book out.

 

[Strathead]

I think I know exactly what you would say if I was your son...

I do have workers comp, but maybe it wouldn't work because they could argue that I am not a licensed electrician opening up the panels and that injuring was my fault.

The craziest thing I opened up was a old 3000A bus duct but I wouldn't open anything that is MV or HV. I am comfortable with only LV. The bus duct wasn't even protected, it was just straight up bus bars in a metal box

You have also recorded your knowledge that this is wrong for all time right here.

 

[kwired]

Press down then rotate handle beyond "ON" position.

That is the key item that I remember needing to do. These been that way since way back when they carried the Bulldog name.

 

[Strathead]

That is the key item that I remember needing to do. These been that way since way back when they carried the Bulldog name.

This is also not uncommon for typical industrial control cabinets, including the ones with a small screw release.

 

[kwired]

This is also not uncommon for typical industrial control cabinets, including the ones with a small screw release.

Most those you simply turn the release screw. The type pictured in OP I have only seen on Bulldog/ITE/Siemens basically all the same product lines just with name changes over the years.