I-Joists 16" on center.....

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j_erickson said:
Plus they fit without breaking the bars in bays with "strapping", which seems to be unique to Central and Eastern MA. i.e. 1x3 firring nailed perpindicular to the joists that the drywall gets fastened to.
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Add RI to that list, and I think I've seen I've heard of it being installed in Maine and New Hampshire as well, but I'm not sure.
 
peter d said:
Add RI to that list, and I think I've seen I've heard of it being installed in Maine and New Hampshire as well, but I'm not sure.
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I've seen it occasionally in other areas. But you go into any house built within the last 150 years here and it got "strapped". It was originally used to straighten ceilings built with timber or rough sawn lumber, but has remained since it is a better way of doing things than hanging the board on the joists.
 
j_erickson said:
It was originally used to straighten ceilings built with timber or rough sawn lumber, but has remained since it is a better way of doing things than hanging the board on the joists.
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The carpenters have a 600 page thread debating this. :D
 
electricmanscott said:
The carpenters have a 600 page thread debating this. :D
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LMAO :D


i did a house last year in south georgia that had a 1x4 stripped ceiling, and the entire attic was decked. none of which was listed on the plans or mentioned to me ahead of time, of course.
 
electricmanscott said:
As much as we might like to think it, the world does not revolve around electricians. The last thing subs are thinking about is us nor would I expect them to be.
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Notice how we seem to drive the job schedule and find more detail errors than any other trade?
 
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stickboy1375 said:
Haha, I usually get the plumber running his vent ... dead center on the bath vanity light ...
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That's an easy one. I hole-saw a big-enough-for-the-vent-pipe hole in a piece of 2x4, cut it in half at the hole, place it around the pipe, and use a pancake box to bridge the cut. Something like this:


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LarryFine said:
That's an easy one. I hole-saw a big-enough-for-the-vent-pipe hole in a piece of 2x4, cut it in half at the hole, place it around the pipe, and use a pancake box to bridge the cut.
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Too much work, I just make em move it... :grin: Besides that usually does not work for the recessed vanity...Plumbers are just dumb IMO...
 
peter d said:
Considering that they can charge $1200 to change a toilet and $500 to change a kitchen faucet, you may want to rethink that statement. ;)
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That's for sure. Just got the new Yellow pages. Lots of full and double page plumbers. Only a couple of electrical.
 
badabing said:
Not sure if anyone knows this, or would want to try it - but if the holes don't line up on the joist, a unibit will drill it out faster then any other bit you could possibly use :) Works great, especially on a cordless drill.
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I love Uni-bits!:)
 
mdshunk said:
Well, I'd like to think we do. We let the plumbers and HVAC guys go first, normally, since their stuff doesn't really bend like our wire. We look at millwork details and equipment cut sheets to make sure we're not about to do something that would interfere with other work. A plumber who didn't look at the E-sheets and ran a line right though where a can goes, if he had other options, is ignorant, disrespectful, or unskilled. Pick one. Same idea with running a duct in a stud cavity where the logical and natural place for switches is, when there are other options. I know I sure try to think a far ahead as possible so that I'm not screwing anyone else, and always referring to other people's prints as much as necessary.
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I do all of the above and I try to talk with the knuckle dragging craftsmen ahead of time. Doing a walk around with them and discussing the work saves us all a lot of hassles,but sometimes I wonder if they don't teach **** the tricians in trade school.:D
 
electricmanscott said:
As much as we might like to think it, the world does not revolve around electricians. The last thing subs are thinking about is us nor would I expect them to be.
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They are when they are waiting for thier temp power to get hooked up. Or for the inspector to OK putting up insulation or rock.:)
 
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