I know it is not code , but she wants it.

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we had a customer that wanted this same exact thing. we ended up using cord for this and the inspector didnt have a problem. i think a 4 inch square with a kellums grip for the cord will be good for this. just make sure your route the cord so it doesnt get crushed when the lady opens and closes the drawer 700 times in the morning
 
acrwc10 said:
ceb58 said:
That sucks. :D :D :D

No, the guy at the licensing board and I had a good laugh. He knew from talking with her she was " unique". She bought a small speck. home that had been completed for 6 mo. befor she looked at it and bought it. She then wanted the contractor and me to rewire the home to her design, at no charge. And the list goes on:-?
 
I would install the outlet in the drawer and put it on a timer. If the inspector is ok with that than Im fine with it. When the remote control for the TV came out people were saying the same thing "how lazy whats so hard about getting up to change the channel?" The same for the microwave. People, especially rich people want things easy and if they want to pay me alot of money to do that, than ill find a sensible and safe way to do it for them.
 
tonyou812 said:
I would install the outlet in the drawer and put it on a timer. If the inspector is ok with that than Im fine with it. When the remote control for the TV came out people were saying the same thing "how lazy whats so hard about getting up to change the channel?" The same for the microwave. People, especially rich people want things easy and if they want to pay me alot of money to do that, than ill find a sensible and safe way to do it for them.

The e-mail today from her was "Wire it and we will cover it up."
My reply was " I will not install anything that is unsafe or a violation of the NEC, but we could discuss other options that are safe and code compliant that would be just as convenient."
 
ceb58 said:
I got turned it to the licencing board for telling a woman she needed to find a different location to plug her 16amp vacuum cleaner into.
Sidetrack time: this points to my main reason for wiring lighting and receptacles on separate circuits:

The one time most people turn on every light in a room is when they're vacuuming.
 
acrwc10 said:
The e-mail today from her was "Wire it and we will cover it up."
My reply was " I will not install anything that is unsafe or a violation of the NEC, but we could discuss other options that are safe and code compliant that would be just as convenient."


Electricity by it's nature is unsafe.

What is the violation you keep refering to???
 
M_BROWNLOW said:
Perhaps, but a woman client who hires a designer to bully a licensed electrician into installing against Code an aesthetically pleasing drawer receptacle for her hair devices doesn't seem like the vain type. ;)

Was she a bully? I was thinking "Divine Design with Candice Olson..."

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Or her pot-light installer extroidinare

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:grin:
 
electricmanscott said:
Electricity by it's nature is unsafe.

What is the violation you keep refering to???

Like I asked before, what wiring method would you use that is acceptable for this ? Don't for get you have the movement of the drawer and the conductor rubbing on the cabinet.
 
acrwc10 said:
Like I asked before, what wiring method would you use that is acceptable for this ? Don't for get you have the movement of the drawer and the conductor rubbing on the cabinet.
I have used SJO cord, connector, and handy box, as mentioned before.

I would also argue that the installation does not fall under the scope of the NEC if it is plugged into a receptacle mounted in the rear of the cabinet. Check out the definition for "premises wiring". It stops at the outlet, which is the receptacle in the cabinet, not in the drawer. The receptacle is required to be GFCI protected per 210.8; what's the issue?

Edit to add: In the installation I performed, I took pains to ensure that the cord would not be subject to rubbing. Over a long period of time, it's conceivable that the cord will wear on it's connector, but the box in the drawer is solidly connected to the EGC, and there is also the GFCI protection. I don't have a problem with it, myself.
 
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