ICC no longer publishing an electrical code

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Pierre C Belarge said:
Fred
Since NY is a code cycle behind, do you think this will have an affect on NYers in the next cycle, or will we have to wait for the cycle after that?

I think Chapter 27 will stay. The one that references the NEC, so very little actual effect on us. But the interesting component of all this is really the underlying power struggle that goes on between standards writing organizations for supremacy, disguised under the notion of "one code". NFPA wins this one....huge win!
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Fred
I was thinking along the lines of the Residential Code book, chapters 33-42.

The Residential Code of NY state Chapters 33-42 is actually produced and copyrighted by the NFPA.

The ICC first introduced the ICC Electrical Code, Administrative Provisions in 2000. (The 1st draft was prepared in 1999). Back when BOCA, ICBO & SBCCII hadn't merged. The ICC recognized the need for provisions in administering the NEC thus the ICC EC Administrative Provisions was designed to correlate with the IC system.

The ICC Electrical Code has been available for adoption by reference by jurisdictions in accordance with laws by such jurisdictions.
The code was maintained by proposed changes submitted by code enforcement officials, industry reps, design professionals, etc.

New York adopted an amendment in the original BCNYS, Chapter 27 that referenced NFPA 70 rather than the ICC EC. I was on the Building Code Technical Subcommittee. (ICC swallowed hard on that one, but they were selling us their Family of Codes, so we prevailed).

Anyway, the ICC EC never really took off that much mainly because of legal manipulations from NFPA and widespread industry familiarity with the NEC.

I won't miss it. :)
 
I think the much bigger issue is the NEC and the IRC not being in cycle with each other. I've never really heard of any states or areas that had issues with the ICC EC, as most areas didn't adopt it. The conflicts between the IRC and NEC (as it relates to publication dates) is a much, much bigger issue, in my opinion.
 
ryan_618 said:
I think the much bigger issue is the NEC and the IRC not being in cycle with each other. I've never really heard of any states or areas that had issues with the ICC EC, as most areas didn't adopt it. The conflicts between the IRC and NEC (as it relates to publication dates) is a much, much bigger issue, in my opinion.

You are so right. Going around instructing the RCNYS based on 2002 NEC, the 2005 NEC and prepping for the eventual adoption of the 2008 NEC sure can be confusing to try to keep all the important Section #'s in track. :-? :D
 
wbalsam1 said:
You are so right. Going around instructing the RCNYS based on 2002 NEC, the 2005 NEC and prepping for the eventual adoption of the 2008 NEC sure can be confusing to try to keep all the important Section #'s in track. :-? :D


Wait Fred
I tell the guys we are in the 2007 NYS cycle referencing the 2002 NEC for residential and the 2005 for other work. I love seeing their faces.


The most asked question after that is...I bought the 2008 NEC, when do I get to use that? :grin:
 
Pierre C Belarge said:
Wait Fred
I tell the guys we are in the 2007 NYS cycle referencing the 2002 NEC for residential and the 2005 for other work. I love seeing their faces.


The most asked question after that is...I bought the 2008 NEC, when do I get to use that? :grin:

Pierre, that question can be a lot of fun with the Codes Division. Just watch their facial expressions when asked the same question. Um, pardon me, but when do we adopt the '08...in 2009, 2010,or 2011? :grin: :grin:
 
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