Illegal Electrical Installation

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iwire said:
...on the other hand a cheesy office max two drawer file cabinet is going to move around.
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Not after I run 1" GRS to it and through bolt the mini straps and terminate it to an FS box. :grin:
 
iwire said:
I don't know any code rule that prohibits ruining conduit to something that can be moved.
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I see what you are talking about Bob but I have always thought that moving it around would subject EMT to physical damage. I'm not even sure you could consider the conduit securely supported since the cabinet is moveable.

It's just my opinion but I believe that you could make the case that secureing conduit to a moveable object is not all that secure since it's not part of the permanent structure. It's allowed to be moved when the tenant leaves.

If it's bolted in place it does become part of the permanent structure and can't be removed without permission from the owner when the tenant leaves.

It's probably a good thing I'm not an inspector, people would hate me.
 
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If we were only allowed to hardwire something that was considered "permanent" then there would be allot of equipment out there that couldn't be wired.
 
paul said:
If we were only allowed to hardwire something that was considered "permanent" then there would be allot of equipment out there that couldn't be wired.
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I wasn't thinking that you couldn't hardwire certain items but if you allow conduit to be secured to a fileing cabinet then why not set a couple of old oil drums on the floor and secure conduit to them. There would have to be a line drawn in the sand some place.

I can't find an official definition of "securely fasted in place" so I guess it's a gray area. I would think that it would be hard to securely fasten conduit to something that it's self is not secure.

Even if allowed I wouldn't consider it a good wiring method. As far as know there is no law against useing a little common sense.

If they need a receptacle on a fileing cabinet then why not a power strip to a receptacle.
 
growler said:
As far as know there is no law against useing a little common sense.
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More to the point, perhaps, is that there is no law that requires using a little common sense. :wink:
 
growler said:
...then why not set a couple of old oil drums on the floor and secure conduit to them. There would have to be a line drawn in the sand some place.
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Maybe not oil drums, but what about those little piers that sit on top of a roof, they are not fastened in place and often get relocated slightly?

IMHO, flex to the cabinet may have been more appropriate.
 
charlie b said:
More to the point, perhaps, is that there is no law that requires using a little common sense. :wink:
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I'm not getting into politics this is just a joke.


Charlie if there were such a law then our leaders would be in deep trouble. :D
 
growler said:
I wasn't thinking that you couldn't hardwire certain items but if you allow conduit to be secured to a fileing cabinet then why not set a couple of old oil drums on the floor and secure conduit to them. There would have to be a line drawn in the sand some place.
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How do you run conduits across a rubber roof? :grin:

They're normally just strapped to chunks of pressure treated 4x4 or one of the similar premanufactured rubber block things for that purpose. Just sitting on the roof.
 
I can see the point of using flex. I consider a hot tub a moveable object, so we will run liquidtite to one just in case they need/want to move it a bit. How big is the file cabinet? Is it something that may need to be moved to clean behind?
 
if your concerned about the file cabinet being movable, just run a screw through the bottom and anchor it to the floor or through the back into the wall.
 
How do you run conduits across a rubber roof?

They're normally just strapped to chunks of pressure treated 4x4 or one of the similar premanufactured rubber block things for that purpose. Just sitting on the roof
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Can you say BINGO. No harm No foul.
 
What is the definition of securely mounted? Is a file cabinet listed a support? What sort of bonding is being done to the filing cabinet??And just to stir the pot a little is this "neat and workman like"??
 
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