In ground pool light

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So I got roped in to repairing some landscape lighting around a pool area. It’s all 5’ or more from the edge and gfci protected etc. my only problem is the pool contractor installed the pool light deck box from one of my landscape lighting junction boxes. I know right away that’s not ok because of the spliced egc at the landscape lights before the pool deck box. Can this be remedied with a #12 insulated egc straight from the gfci to the deck box. I can’t seem to find anywhere that states the in ground pool needs to be a dedicated circuit, just that the ground can not be spliced unless it’s ran to additional in ground pool lights.
 
The #12 equipment grounding conductor can be spliced at a gfci, time clock, transformer etc. However it must be continuous from that point on. So no the pool light does not need to be a separate circuit but somehow you need to get the wiring to have an insulated equipment grounding conductor all the way back to the panel. If you landscape lighting box is in conduit you may be okay
 
The #12 equipment grounding conductor can be spliced at a gfci, time clock, transformer etc. However it must be continuous from that point on. So no the pool light does not need to be a separate circuit but somehow you need to get the wiring to have an insulated equipment grounding conductor all the way back to the panel. If you landscape lighting box is in conduit you may be okay

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The #12 equipment grounding conductor can be spliced at a gfci, time clock, transformer etc. However it must be continuous from that point on. So no the pool light does not need to be a separate circuit but somehow you need to get the wiring to have an insulated equipment grounding conductor all the way back to the panel. If you landscape lighting box is in conduit you may be okay
Thanks for the response!!!! Yes it’s ran in schedule 80 pvc and junctioned at 4 pole lights (7’ lollipop lights/cheap globe lights) around the pool. The pool light is attached to the 2nd pole lights junction. I have room for an additional conductor. I was just concerned the poles and pool couldn’t some how be on the same load side of a single gfci and couldn’t find anything saying ya or nay
 
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The #12 equipment grounding conductor can be spliced at a gfci, time clock, transformer etc. However it must be continuous from that point on. So no the pool light does not need to be a separate circuit but somehow you need to get the wiring to have an insulated equipment grounding conductor all the way back to the panel. If you landscape lighting box is in conduit you may be okay
Just to clarify everything is 120v
 
The only thing you may have to watch out for is that the load side of the gfci cannot be in the same raceway as non gfci conductors

680.23(F)(3) Conductors. Conductors on the load side of a groundfault
circuit interrupter or of a transformer, used to comply
with the provisions of 680.23(A)(8), shall not occupy raceways,
boxes, or enclosures containing other conductors unless one of
the following conditions applies:
(1) The other conductors are protected by ground-fault
circuit interrupters.
(2) The other conductors are equipment grounding conductors
and bonding jumpers as required per 680.23(B)(2)
(b).
(3) The other conductors are supply conductors to a feedthrough-
type ground-fault circuit interrupter.
(4) Ground-fault circuit interrupters shall be permitted in a
panelboard that contains circuits protected by other than
ground-fault circuit interrupters.
 
The only thing you may have to watch out for is that the load side of the gfci cannot be in the same raceway as non gfci conductors
Ya there’s only one circuit feeding all of it from the load side of the gfci. All four lollipop/globe lights, two small led flood lights and the in wall pool light are on the load side together. I have room to run a second insulated egc for the Pool deck box only through the existing conduit, leaving the poles bonded to the existing egc (that’s spliced and bonded at all those locations) and then terminating both (new continuous and old) egc in the time clock or gfci I haven’t decided which yet.
 
The only thing you may have to watch out for is that the load side of the gfci cannot be in the same raceway as non gfci conductors
Since I don’t do them much at all pools scare the hell out of me... the pool guy laughed and said why are all electricians so worried. I had to hold back from telling him well you should of ran your deck box outside the deck so we could still properly get a new circuit to it
 
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