I took a code class last night and we wee talking about the new weather resistent gfi. The instructor was thinking that if you use the weather resistent outlet than you can use just a regular outdoor cover instead of the bulky in use cover. Has anyone else heard this?
in-use covers
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The instructor is incorrect. Bubble cover is still needed. What article did he cite.
electricmanscott
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I would ask the "instructor" for a refund. Yikes.
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I like the "either or" concept. I don't really understand the new requirement. I must use an in use cover to keep water out but now I must also use a WR receptacle. If the in use cover is already doing it's job why the new requirement?
electricmanscott
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They won't be new in 2011 as they are available and required now by anybody under the '08 NEC.
electricmanscott
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Moisture would be my guess.
They said the requirement has been delayed till 2011 to give all the manufacturers time to develop the product.
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I have heard that the wr recep, were brought in because of the use of the clear bubble covers. Apparently the sunlight was hurting the device thus the new recep.
that makes sense
Gfic receptacles have had in their instructions to use an in-use cover for years. Section 406.8 (B) (1) says that 15 and 20 ampere receptacles installed in a wet location shall have an enclosure that is weather-proof whether or not the attachment plug cap is inserted. It doesn't say a gfci receptacle. It may be protected by a gfci in a panel or a dead front. O5 NEC.
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Karl H
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How many "In-Use" covers have you seen with it's "Bubble" popped?
Leaving that poor defenseless receptacle shivering out in the cold
pouring rain?
electricmanscott
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Again, I'd get a refund from this so called instructor. Is he an instructor or a story teller.
WR receptacles are readily available and have been for at least a year.
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How many "In-Use" covers have you seen with it's "Bubble" popped?
Leaving that poor defenseless receptacle shivering out in the cold
pouring rain?
A few. Here's one that is not so defenseless:
stickboy1375
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JohnJ0906
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A few. Here's one that is not so defenseless:
That probably works better than a regular bubble cover.... :wink:
A few. Here's one that is not so defenseless:
OK, should the ground go in the bottom left or upper right? :grin:
Karl H
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A few. Here's one that is not so defenseless:
I can't tell you how many "Bubble" covers I've seen where the "Bubble"has been broken off. I think that plastic bottle would have 100 times the
lifespan of a cheap "Bubble" cover. Of course,not as pretty.
electricalperson
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they are already on the market. the ones i buy are TR/WR GFCI's not too expensive
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