Input on new house

ammklq143

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Iowa
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Electrician
My son is building a house and I'm looking for ideas on things that we could do as we're doing the wiring that we could maybe provide for customers. As of now, we just do the wiring and add network cables, security camera's, etc. as requested, but since he's building his own, I'd like to look into options for other things. I haven't done sound systems for homes, but would like to look into that if anyone has any experience. My experience with sound systems is hardwiring speakers to jacks and plugging a tuner or something into it. There has to be a better system than that.

If anyone has any ideas that they'd share, we'd appreciate it.
Thank you!
 
Since you're in Iowa, I'm guessing you're either a contractor or someone is getting the permit for you.... :sneaky: I've seen whole house sound systems, I don't have experience in them, but they don't seem overly complicated. Volume control in rooms and speakers in the ceilings. 🤷‍♂️
 
Since you're in Iowa, I'm guessing you're either a contractor or someone is getting the permit for you.... :sneaky: I've seen whole house sound systems, I don't have experience in them, but they don't seem overly complicated. Volume control in rooms and speakers in the ceilings. 🤷‍♂️
Yeah, we're an electrical contractor. I figured since we're building for my son we could try some things we haven't done before.
 
Here are a few trends / ideas that occur to me (and we are implementing):

- There's a long term trend toward low voltage lighting. Consider this as you do your system design. I'm putting a lot of low-voltage drivers in the mechanical room rather than routing 120V to every fixture.

- Depending on where you live, heat pumps rather than furnaces and A/C might make sense. We're doing hydronic heating in the floors, for instance.

- Solar and geothermal as sources of energy.

- We're doing a Passive House - inspired but not certified - construction, so we're doing a lot of work about controlling movement of air, humidity, bulk water, and heat. This requires "new" mechnicals like heat recovery ventilators and make-up air systems.

- We're doing a snow melt system for the front porch and near the garage entrance. Might be great... others think it's nuts.

- For energy storage on site (batteries), I'm setting up critical loads and non-critical loads. That's not hard to imagine, but one thing that might not be obvious is that I'm putting one critical load receptacle in every room. The concept is that I'm not smart enough to think of every critical load and this might give us a plan B after the drywall is all up.

- There is little question that with today's tech, wired ethernet is faster than wireless. But the state of the art keeps improving and I'm debating about whether it is really necessary to pull CAT5 or CAT6 or CAT26 everywhere. However, wireless access points are not all the same thing in different gray boxes. I've been very impressed with the Ubiquiti products in other settings.

- I've been underwhelmed with whole house audio/video systems for the price. Google Home (and other products like it) provide a decent experience and can be coordinated around the house. We're not super high fidelity audiophiles, so others may push you in another direction. I like the visual of the Sonos In-Wall speakers.

- We're going to use the Lutron lighting automation system. I have tried every lighting automation system (small exaggeration) trend from the old DC-switched relays, to X10, to SmartHome, to you name it. None quite match the reliability of Lutron. I'd really like to use their Homeworks system but they only make that available to their distributors to manage, so I'll be using Radio Ra 3 as the controller.

- For lighting design, I've been impressed by the work posted all over youtube on lighting activities rather than lighting the center of the room itself. Dropping in a bunch of can lights everywhere will probably work, but is not optimal, I'm learning. Also, pay attention to the options to match color temperature to time-of-day so that you're not stuck at 1700°K nor 4000°K. [Exaggeration intended.]

- If you're not putting in EV chargers, you may want to consider that, for resale value even if you won't use it yourself.


Those are just a few ideas randomly selected.

I'm a master electrician (Wisconsin), and we're building the house ourselves as a retirement project. If you want to follow-along, we're doing a daily Instagram update: https://www.instagram.com/betterhouseproject/. This is not a best-practice or instructional video series... mostly just a public diary of our experience. We have huge respect for all the trades that we're learning along the way.


- Paul
 
I think making provisions for a whole house generator would be good. You could set it up so an ATS could easily be placed, whether its just a 200A service with one panel, or 400A with two panels. If you're certain a generator is going to be needed, you could just put in the ATS now and the generator later.

Even would be good to wire the main panel as a subpanel even if no generator is currently planned. It would make it lots easier if one is added later.

I see lots of questions about adding a generator & ATS to a meter-main. Those can be very difficult to install after everything is wired. So either go ahead and install an ATS, or put a disconnect that could easily be replaced with an ATS later.
Meter-main to ATS, or disconnect, to inside panel.
In the case of a meter-main, the ATS would not be the main, or disconnect, as the meter-main is factory bonded and is suitable only for use as service equipment
So either install a non-service rated ATS, or undo the bond in the ATS.
 
If there is more than one story, put an empty conduit from top to bottom for future use.
I put in a hot water circulating pump and plumbing to get instant hot water to kitchen and bath. Pump was wired to be controlled by the light switch in each room, so soon after entering room, hot water was there.
Outlet under eaves with inside switch for Christmas lights.
 
CAT 6 everywhere you might want a camera, motion sensor, automated blinds, etc, etc. You can't run too much CAT 6!

Smart homes are the wave of now, and of the future. Electricians are generally pretty ignorant when it comes to such things, and those who can do 3 phase in their sleep I wouldn't trust to terminate a CAT 6.

Occupancy sensors to turn lights on in rooms, humidity sensors to turn fans on in the bathrooms. I put cat 6 behind all the bathroom room mirrors and mirror in the entry way for future smart mirrors. CAT 6 for cameras on every outside corner (2 per corner) plus inside the garages.

Outdoor lighting is becoming more popular again. Decorative LED smart lights around roof lines, post lights down long driveways, entry lights at the entrance, etc, etc, etc.

You should really ask this on a home building forum. A lot of the old guys here can't think beyond stuff they learned 30 years ago.
 
"CAT 6 everywhere you might want a camera, motion sensor, automated blinds, etc, etc. You can't run too much CAT 6!"

TWO CAT 6's to every location.......lets you keep the home computers-games separated from the house functions.
 
CAT 6 everywhere you might want a camera, motion sensor, automated blinds, etc, etc. You can't run too much CAT 6!

Smart homes are the wave of now, and of the future. Electricians are generally pretty ignorant when it comes to such things, and those who can do 3 phase in their sleep I wouldn't trust to terminate a CAT 6.

Occupancy sensors to turn lights on in rooms, humidity sensors to turn fans on in the bathrooms. I put cat 6 behind all the bathroom room mirrors and mirror in the entry way for future smart mirrors. CAT 6 for cameras on every outside corner (2 per corner) plus inside the garages.

Outdoor lighting is becoming more popular again. Decorative LED smart lights around roof lines, post lights down long driveways, entry lights at the entrance, etc, etc, etc.

You should really ask this on a home building forum. A lot of the old guys here can't think beyond stuff they learned 30 years ago.
I’m one of those old guys that still does most things the way I did 30 years ago. Lol. I do security cameras and network cabling. Haven’t done much of anything for audio though. I’ll have to look into some of the “smart home” stuff.
 
When I gutted my old house and re-did it 20 years ago I did everything in EMT so I could get better at bending EMT.
I have benefited from it last week when I ran a ductless heatpump circuit (240V), I did have to open up 10 receptacles though.
I also ran 1" EMT drops to the basement for the phone and cable and I am glad I did as now I have HDMI and cat6 in there.
 
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