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It sounds like there must be some "pre-existing conditions"....I would think for an EI to do that there must be history.....or like someone else said maybe he is looking for his own advice..Or he might just be a crabby old @!*^$.....
 
splinetto said:
It sounds like there must be some "pre-existing conditions"....I would think for an EI to do that there must be history.....or like someone else said maybe he is looking for his own advice..Or he might just be a crabby old @!*^$.....
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you been lookin' at my State ID tag ??:grin:
 
Point 1. The inspector is hung up on an age-old problem with the NEC, in that "nearest the point of entrance" is not a black-and-white, but rather a "grey" area. He suspects something is amiss, but when he turns to the code for support, it's too "grey" to enforce. Part of him says, "I've got to let this pass because I cannot cite this clearly", and the other part says "I'd rather err on the side of good judgement and make him change it" hoping that there won't be a challenge to his decision. He doesn't know where to turn, has little faith in the CMP's anymore since they're comprised of industry rep's who have a business interest first and foremost in the code, and feels it's really up to just him.

Point 2. The inspector's tact and ability to communicate may be somewhat lacking. Sure sounds it so far.

Point 3. The NEC desperately needs to work on this section and get it straightened out. Every code cycle, there are attempts.

Point 4. I don't believe the inspector is waiting for a $100 instead of a $20 on this one.

Point 5. He should be honest with the installer about the dilema the code creates by it's lack of clarity and work out a solution based on industry practice.
 
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In many instances an electrical inspector will be called to make an electrical inspection not knowing the total extent of the inspection. He or She may go to make a rough wall inspection and be asked (while your here) could you also take a look at this. It puts the inspector on the spot to make an inspection of something that might require some research . There are a myriad of different types of electrical inspections and codes to follow not inclusive to the NEC. The inspector may not have had time to research all codes on the spot and rather than say it fails He may say that He doesn't think it is a violation but has to research. Who knows whats on his mind? If a violation is written the code from which the Municipality enforces should be noted along with the code section in violation.
 
glirosi said:
This service is on an assited living home (80 units) in orange county florida. The issue is mostly over the service entrance conductors. They enter the electric room (which is nearest to the utility transformer) underground directly into a wire way. The conductors then nipple into the top of 4 different main disconnects. Approx 6 feet of unprotected conductors inside the room. He just wants the unprotected conductors to go directly into the disconnects. He plainly said we do not violate any NEC codes. Just change it , I don't like it!

Do I have any recourse?
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so let me get this correct you come in sch 80 to a wire way and splice into the in coming lines 4 different times??
 
charlie b said:

If that was the intent, he should have said so. But to declare that it does not violate the code, and insist it be changed anyway, is unprofessional, unethical, and downright unamerican.
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I Agree with Charlie,the inspector @ a bare minimum needs to let you know where he is coming from,after all we do pay alot of money for permits...
 
Out of curiosity, is the inspector also an EC, that may have bid on this job?

Is the area's building department strapped for cash, and looking for any reason to charge for two inspections?

I think you need to go the AHJ, the HMFIC, the top dog of the building department and demand an answer. If you have nothing written saying it passed or failed, but they charged for an inspection, that's cheesier than Kraft!
 
I have worked in Orange County for years and dealt with most of the inspectors. Unless this guy is new I can't imagine any of them
being so vague. I talk about code issues with any that come on my jobs and have never gotten "attitude" or lack of willingness to help me understand something. I suspect we aren't getting the full story here by the op. I would love to know which inspector he is dealing with....

edit: inspectors here aren't allowed to contract in the jurisdiction they inspect.
 
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