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JohnJ0906 said:
I read the OP to mean there was just a small wall that the door covered when it was open, not a situation such as the illustration Stick posted.
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1st. bedroom on right
I have an inspector that said " i must have a recep behind the door of a bedroom because there are two ft of wall space"????
I said Not usible...They said "usible not in code."
I said spaced first recep 6' from door...They said " 2' rule over rides."????
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This is my take on it anyways....
 
The recep started at the 6'...Its there. they want 1 behind the door.
2nd bed....Ok... but as you walk in you walk in to the closet wall of 18in on your R (with the switches) then it turns ..Know you have a double studed corner then a double studed closet door start... so i have never put a recep on the entrance of a bedroom like that because it was an entrance to the room and the closet is on the other side. Nothing is going to be used there... But i understand the 2' rule.
 
Micksbroke said:
The recep started at the 6'...Its there. they want 1 behind the door.
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OK, that is ridiculous - absolutely no need for that. 210.52(A)(2)(1) is already covered by the one you have installed.
2nd bed....Ok... but as you walk in you walk in to the closet wall of 18in on your R (with the switches) then it turns ..Know you have a double studed corner then a double studed closet door start... so i have never put a recep on the entrance of a bedroom like that because it was an entrance to the room and the closet is on the other side. Nothing is going to be used there... But i understand the 2' rule.
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I would always install one there.
A) It's required.
B) It might be the only one that can be accessed for vacuuming.
 
Micksbroke said:
Good enough!
But he other is just like Sticky pic.
I don't think i should put one there.
Is there a diagram on N.E.C CD rom?
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I really don't understand his interpretation.

There are very few illustrations in any version of the NEC, however there is one very similar to Stickboy's (actually Mike Holt's :grin:) in the NEC handbook. However, it is interpretation, and not enforceable.
 
C3PO said:
I may be the only one, but I do not like this state ammendment and still measure from the door opening when I space my receptacles. Like George said earlier, it may be the only receptacle not covered up for a vacuum or something.

Also some people will say they thought the door was going to swing this way and then the GC changed it so now their receptacles are too far away, etc. etc.
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I always measure from the opening as well. But has anyone encountered a 6' wide door in a bedroom?
 
infinity said:
This is one instance where a photo would help. I read the OP 3 times and am still confused. :rolleyes:
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yeah, he wasn't very clear about his scenario. If the wall behind the door is a continuous wall say 10 feet then as long as he has one within 6 feet of the door he is fine, but if it's just a small wall that is let's say 24 inches wide then he needs one there. As for his 2nd scenario, I'm lost as to what he is trying to convey.
 
acrwc10 said:
That about sums it up. Just add any wall space 2 ft wide or more needs a receptacle outlet, this sometimes gets missed when you have a door that when open all the way has the closet the end of it.
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I don't know how this would get missed since the door isn't installed when you are roughing in a house. The walls are clear to see.
 
Thats what I SCREEMING!!!!
I've been doing this long enough to know better.
But the code book don't give me no help. Senior inspector of county has relayed his message improperly to his inspectors....I guess. There very addament about it.
 
Micksbroke said:
Thats what I SCREEMING!!!!
I've been doing this long enough to know better.
But the code book don't give me no help. Senior inspector of county has relayed his message improperly to his inspectors....I guess. There very addament about it.
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The NEC does help. Ask him to show you where in the NEC it says you must istall a receptacle behind a door? Now if the wall was just 2 feet or barely more than 2 feet and behind the door you would need one, but you wouldn't need it because it's behind the door, you would need it because the wall is 2 feet or more. Bottom line is that the inspector is an idiot and should be taken out! :)
 
Mike, that section is very clear, you start where the wall starts at the floor line and that spot is beside the door frame not 2' or 3' feet from it.
 
If this is a final inspection (I've never seen doors hung at rough) then I would say the inspector missed it and maybe should have to live with it. At rough I always measure from the opening, doors don't always swing the way they are drawn on the plans.

To truly answer your question, if one of my inspectors made the call, I would back him up.
 
acrwc10 said:
That about sums it up. Just add any wall space 2 ft wide or more needs a receptacle outlet, this sometimes gets missed when you have a door that when open all the way has the closet the end of it.
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Apparently, Tennessee will not require a receptacle in that space when the 08 code takes effect.

If the door, when opened, takes up all of the wall space to the closet opening (less than 2' remaining), a receptacle won't be required in that wall space.
That's the way that I read it anyway.

steve
 
The wall space behind the door counts. If it is 2ft or more it requires a receptacle. I like this rule anyway....Many times after all the furniture is put into a bedroom this is the only outlet readily available to plug in a vaccum cleaner....Without having to move the bed or a dresser......LOL.
 
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